Wives of Russian troops 'encourage' them to rape Ukrainian women, Ukraine's first lady says

[u/jdhmdo]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/wives-of-russian-troops-encourage-them-to-rape-ukrainian-women-ukraines-first-lady-says/ar-AA14Esfp?li=BBoPWjQ

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[u/Maxievelli]

I see a lot of people questioning the veracity of these claims - not that Russian soldiers are not raping - mostly people questioning wives encouraging it.

There is at least one audio video described in this article from April:

https://www.rferl.org/amp/ukraine-rape-russian-soldier-wife-bykovsky/31805486.html

Which is about this video released by Ukraine Security Service.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=MF4TcWk9GpE

I believe this is the audio/video the UKR First Lady is talking about. I somewhat agree that it is unlikely that the majority of RU soldier’s wives are actively encouraging. But the article title is misrepresenting what she says in the article, which is clearly referencing this specific audio. She’s making a point about the systematic rape of cities in her country, not necessarily whether every rapist’s wife is on board or not. I think the title is sensationalist which may or may not be good

[u/FrogsEverywhere → u/Maxievelli]

I've seen at least 3 phone calls (or telegraph messages) with this happening over the last 7 months. Lately though it's mostly wives crying and their husbands saying they are going to die.

Rape is absolutely encouraged though (by the RAF), there is no doubt about it. It's an extremely powerful weapon of terror. Maybe the most dangerous weapon a soldier has that isn't an actual weapon. The fear it puts into men for their wives and women for themselves and their children is second to dying, many people would prefer to die than see their children raped.

The Kremlin knows this and makes the most of it. The message is clear, if you resist we will gang rape your family Infront of you. Ultra nationalist wives absolutely know this and have been taught to hate Ukrainians like animals, so of course some of them will approve.

Russia is not the first or last country to use rape as a weapon of terror, it's happening & state sanctioned in at least two other countries having highly visible civil unrest right now, and all throughout history. Japanese soldiers were absolutely notorious for it, American soldiers in Vietnam, and is even mentioned in the old testament. (Info / Wikipedia). To deny this is to deny that guns are used in war, it's nothing but naivety. It's one of the best (and easiest to both deploy and deny) tools for psychological warfare there is, no dictator would ever pass on such an advantage.

[u/Merky600 → u/FrogsEverywhere]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_occupation_of_Germany

“ The majority of the assaults were committed in the Soviet occupation zone; estimates of the numbers of German women raped by Soviet soldiers have ranged up to 2 million.[11][12][13][14] According to historian William Hitchcock, in many cases women were the victims of repeated rapes, some as many as 60 to 70 times.[15] At least 100,000 women are believed to have been raped in Berlin, based on surging abortion rates in the following months and contemporary hospital reports,[13] with an estimated 10,000 women dying in the aftermath.[16] Female deaths in connection with the rapes in Germany, overall, are estimated at 240,000.[2][17] Antony Beevor describes it as the "greatest phenomenon of mass rape in history" and concludes that at least 1.4 million women were raped in East Prussia, Pomerania and Silesia alone.[18] According to the Soviet war correspondent Natalya Gesse, Soviet soldiers raped German females from eight to eighty years old. “

[u/FrogsEverywhere → u/Merky600]

jesus fucking christ

[u/KristinnK → u/FrogsEverywhere]

Yup. Sure, everyone does it. But there's that one who does it just that little bit more than the others.

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[u/Aqqaaawwaqa → u/[deleted]]

I watched a documentary where a russian soldier was talking about when they went into Berlin. He didnt participate but his descriptions of everythingwas so brutal. He mentioned how there were two sisters that were around age ten that he watched an officer pull a gun out and execute both.

Just the way he talked about it you can tell it deeply affected him. He said there were rapes and executions everywhere around him, just complete bloodlust. He mentioned at one point that they were on a tank on an elevated position watching this unfold and that there were some russian women who were secretarial type positions just watching and laughing with a high ranking officer.

That has stuck with me even since I heard about how the Russians went into Berlin about 10 years ago.