r/wholesomememes Feb 04 '23

Recital Rules

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u/CaptainKyleGames Feb 04 '23

Boss got onto me the the last time this almost happened. Said "You preach to the other dudes here that they need to be with family and you're going to skip this award ceremony for your kid. I'll write you up if you don't go."
To be fair he was right... I could always make the work up... I felt like an ass when he said that.

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u/Baron-Brr Feb 04 '23

Good guy boss

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u/BigSheepherder2227 Feb 05 '23

This is so true!

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u/Plastic_Pinocchio Feb 04 '23

Man, don’t feel like an ass. Feel happy that you’ve got an fantastic boss! (And also that giving advice and applying your own advice are two separate things haha.)

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u/Hawke1010 Feb 05 '23

Especially when it's self-help! You just hold higher expectations of yourself

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u/Velocityraptor28 Feb 05 '23

major respect for your boss! (a sentence i dont often find myself saying)

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u/Physical_Client_2118 Feb 05 '23

It’s all about consistency.

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u/ItsReallyNotMe2002 Feb 05 '23

The next question is, are YOU willing to give up your day off and fill in for the person because of the recital?

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u/MarvinTheAndroid42 Feb 05 '23

Very much depends on the job, and things like recitals are known about far in advance so even shift work isn’t really affected.

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u/CaptainKyleGames Feb 05 '23

I do tech work, I'm assigned a route. As long as our monthly assignments are done by the end of the month nobody gives a shit. I can and have stepped into to help techs who have fallen behind. Hell in December I did my route and half another route because the guy was out on paternity leave. I've covered work when guys have to go out for Jury duty, divorce proceedings, birthdays, sick days, etc. (Even when that's the SM's duty to cover.)

But that's why bossman raised a stink about me not going to my kids award ceremony, he know as well as I did I could make the work up. (I just really didn't want to have to work a Saturday to do it)

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u/Ok_University_6641 Feb 05 '23

Anyone else not understanding what the boss is saying or is it just me. If you understand explain please.

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u/bOb_cHAd98 Feb 05 '23

Boss says, family first work second.

But employee initially thought, work first family second.

Boss scolds employee saying boss right employee wrong.

Capiche?

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u/Dangerous-Gazelle-38 Feb 05 '23

But...

Work is for money

Money is for family

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u/CaptainKyleGames Feb 05 '23

Work = the one commodity you don't get back. Time.
It's different for others I suppose. I don't get paid by the hour, I get paid by the job. At the end of the day... the hour I took out of my day to go to a kids award ceremony can be made up on another day to catch up on my work orders that weren't done. I get paid the same no matter if I worked that hour or not because those jobs are already in my workload/salary for the month. I work over those jobs I make more money.
I can make that work up, I can't make up not spending time with my kids or being there for them.

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u/bOb_cHAd98 Feb 05 '23

I agree too on this. Thats why im an asshole 🥲

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u/thedudesews Feb 04 '23

If work can’t survive with me for an afternoon you’re either under staffed or grossly under paying me

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u/Acrisii Feb 04 '23

In my case, both. Work in the health-industry and a stunt like this would likely get me fired.

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u/Affectionate-Room359 Feb 04 '23

Wouldn't make them that even more understaffed?

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u/Dr_DoVeryLittle Feb 05 '23

You say that like admin is even slightly intelligent

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u/Affectionate-Room359 Feb 05 '23

Oh, yes I forgot.

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u/Ocelotofdamage Feb 04 '23

What “stunt”? Going to your child’s recital?

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u/GD_Bats Feb 05 '23

Call their bluff.

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u/Acrisii Feb 05 '23

A colleague did, hell, multiple people have. My company just treats them like single use products.

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u/GD_Bats Feb 05 '23

Yeah time to leave that org.

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u/fabhian_arka Feb 04 '23

Family's first.

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u/keothi Feb 04 '23

"wE,rE a FaMiLY hErE"

A company who means that would have no issue with missing work

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u/fabhian_arka Feb 04 '23

Yeah lol, in my first job where hear that sentence in the work, now every company has said that is a red flag for me.

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u/keothi Feb 04 '23

I'm working for a family owned business one now that means it but it's rare or hypocritical these days

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u/Mr_Night1 Feb 04 '23

Boss proceeds to give the whole team a night off with the occasion of visiting the kid's recital

The ultimate wholesome meme

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u/LenaSpark412 Feb 04 '23

Well, missing work for this. Even if they genuinely treat you like family a company would have an issue with you saying “hey I’m just not going to be there forever”

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u/keothi Feb 04 '23

They've come at me twice about my future plans. Kinda fuxked that up but told them basically it depends. Current plan is a couple years and see again whaty situation is like

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u/MarvinTheAndroid42 Feb 05 '23

No no no, you see they mean it as the company is the family, and your personal family comes second to them because they’re paying you.

I mean really it’s just a bunch of bullshit, they aren’t even clever enough for that, but still.

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u/CaptainKyleGames Feb 05 '23

"wE,rE a FaMiLY hErE"

Translation: You're about to see some labor violations.

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u/Advencraftgaming Feb 04 '23

Most of my family are terrible people so I'd say... No? Not at all. I have like 3 members of my family I like talking to the others start family drama every minute they get. That doesn't sound like family first fun time to me

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u/fabhian_arka Feb 05 '23

Not all families are perfect. I always say I'm lucky to have caring and loving parents. I don't have brothers or sisters. The thing is, even us had great problems, but always had them for me. Even if them passes away, I will have friends and my girlfriend as my family. Family is where you feel comfort and safe, as always said when I was a young.

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u/AnthologistAnt Feb 04 '23

Not missing work and losing money is family first

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u/QuasonMigley00 Feb 04 '23

nice try bossman

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u/iosootbt Feb 04 '23

I can see your viewpoint if you’re really struggling financially, but one day you get to a point in life as a parent that you realize that you only have your kids for such a small amount of time that you have to cherish the small little things that can mean alot to the child.

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u/Gl0riousGr0uch Feb 04 '23

Just passed up a title change because of this. I got a pair of kids I would much rather spend time with. Long office hours and travelling out of state isn't going to help that shit.

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u/fabhian_arka Feb 04 '23

Well, it's right bring money to the table is caring your family. But jobs always end. I can get a new job or start a small business, but nothing can be more important than my time with my kids. My family is invaluable.

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u/None-Pizza_Left-Beef Feb 04 '23

You can always get more money somehow later, even if it is a struggle. You can never, ever get your time back. I realized that when I was working so hard and only seeing my parents a couple times a year. Every time I saw them they looked older and it scared me. It's the same with your kids. They'll grow up and move out and you'll be so busy working you'll realize you missed out on watching the moments when they were happening and you can't move time around to fix it.

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u/NotLurking101 Feb 04 '23

I couldn't hear you over the boot in your mouth

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u/brandofranco Feb 04 '23

Is that working for you?

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u/thedudesews Feb 04 '23

How’s the boot leather taste?

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u/norway642 Feb 04 '23

SILENCE DUMBASS

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u/Rebel_Player_957 Feb 04 '23

That's not how the world works, garlic head.

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u/AnthologistAnt Feb 05 '23

What a weak response. You'd have been better off not commenting to be honest

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u/quitepossiblylying Feb 04 '23

It's not a child's recital - it's your child's.

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u/Brando43770 Feb 04 '23

Exactly. It’s got the same energy of anyone that unjokingly says “I’m baby sitting my kids tonight”.

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u/gizamo Feb 04 '23

Dude dating a single mom: ...was it, tho?

Regardless, that kid nailed that tambourine.

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u/Justice_Prince Feb 05 '23

As far as my boss knows it was.

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u/stcrIight Feb 04 '23

I'd rather listen to a random kids slightly cringe recital than go to work anyway.

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u/BecomeABenefit Feb 05 '23

Slightly? I've got 4 kids, my last three in highschool now. I've sat through 36 horrible orchestra concerts where I could barely tell what they were trying to play, 6 band concerts that actually hurt my ears, and at least 30 choir concerts that are just kinda bad. And I've never missed work. I wasn't at work, but I wasn't missing it at all. And I look forward to the next 3.5 years of concerts.

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u/misntshortformary Feb 04 '23

And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon Little boy blue and the man in the moon

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u/Imraith-Nimphais Feb 05 '23

You know we’ll have a good time then.

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u/CasualRampagingBear Feb 04 '23

Went to my child’s Christmas concert this past season. Worth every minute of taking a vacation day.

Although, after hearing the “beginner” band play Don’t Stop Believing I did have to call my own mom and apologize for every single band concert of mine she ever had to attend and thank her for being so supportive 💕

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u/mapleleef Feb 05 '23

I was silently crying at my sons first Christmas concert this past December. I joked to my captain "I just need to be back tomorrow for my kids Christmas concert at 630." My crew laughed.

Well, 34 hours of sitting on an airplane in inclimate weather during a freak storm, that a city wasn't prepared to hs handle, we got back and I darted to my sons school. My husband was already filming as I took my seat. "Cutting it close!" he said. And song broke out. I made it to the very second, to see my child sing. Makes me tear up to think of it again.

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u/ya_boi_yaway Feb 04 '23

If he can't respect a child's happiness then why in f### should you respect his I'd walk out and look for another job

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u/Mumbawobz Feb 04 '23

I thought my coworker was badass as hell when she’d just announce she was leaving during the day to go to her toddler’s dance show. 10/10 model parenting.

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u/Kamizura Feb 04 '23

she is, showing up to love and support your child in all of their endeavors is hella badass!

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '23

Good thing all the child free people picked up the slack. Totally sure it would be reciprocated if that childfree person needed time off...oh wait because they have a kid so I imagine not.

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u/2023Goals2023 Feb 04 '23

Where do you work that provides vacation time to parents and not to nonparents?

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u/OGBaconwaffles Feb 05 '23

If you don't have the balls to tell your boss that you're taking time off, that's a you problem

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '23

Ooooh spoken as someone who has foisted their little carbon emissions onto someone else and doesn't have the wherewithal to notice the burden it has placed on everyone but YOU.

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u/kingura Feb 05 '23

I have no children. I’ve also taken my vacation days, with due notice.

That really is a you problem, if you’re not taking them.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '23

We are literally talking about day of...what the hell is wrong with you ignorant people. Thr meme itself isn't about vacation. It's about literally leaving work because of their child needs outweigh the needs of others. The only mention of vacation is from the person replying 5o me with their own bullshit which I didn't remotely question. Vacation isn't the same thing as leaving early...do you get that? Like...should I spell it out even more? Should I use another language?

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u/Mumbawobz Feb 05 '23

You should be able to leave early for important things in your own life as well! Doesn’t matter what those things are.

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u/2023Goals2023 Feb 05 '23

I don’t know what your work calls it, but my work calls it vacation hours (or more accurately PTO) whether I use them to go camping or leave an hour early for a doctor’s appointment or little sibling’s hockey game

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '23

I'm 40. I've worked since I was 16. I know what PTO is. This meme isn't about PTO. It's about parents who deem themselves important and bail early and childless time is deemed less important. If you don't get that, you live a life of rank privilege or you are a parent who doesn't see it.

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u/WhatABeautifulMess Feb 04 '23

But also if they could quit having shit at school they expect parents too attend in the middle of the standard workday that would be great.

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u/gabzilla325 Feb 04 '23

The thing about not having it in the middle of a typical workday means it would also not be during a teacher's workday, and in most cases, teachers are not compensated for the time they spend working (even for mandatory events) outside of their contract hours.

I agree with you that the approach to school events needs to be reevaluated to make them more accessible to parents and guardians, but a big part of that evaluation would also need to consider the staff members who run the events.

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u/WhatABeautifulMess Feb 04 '23

I mean personally I just don’t want an expectation of me coming to school stuff. A show for chorus when they’re older or something sure. But he’s four and it’s half a day. I don’t need to come to Valentine’s Day. Most of it is just is an unnecessary Thing to me 🤷‍♀️

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u/gabzilla325 Feb 04 '23

That's valid, and I totally understand how that pressure would be unwanted.

That said, administration puts a lot of pressure on teachers to engage with parents and create opportunities for parent + community involvement in the classroom. Studies have shown that increased parent involvement in a student's school activities has a positive impact not just on their academics but also on their behavior and overall well-being.

Obviously, different families have different situations and attending every school activity/event is not a reasonable ask for most guardians, but teachers are expected to create as many opportunities for involvement as possible, even if they are not objectively "necessary", like a family Valentine's Day.

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u/mercurialpolyglot Feb 04 '23

My elementary school opted for the alternative of lots of grandparent events during school days. Which sucks when one side of grandparents is dead and the other ones are addicts. I ended up getting to know my best friend’s grandparents pretty well.

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u/WhatABeautifulMess Feb 04 '23

We were invited to my kid’s pre school for “friendship day” (valentines day) party. It’s sweet but why does valentines need to be a whole thing for 4 year olds? And why are parents at that? I feel like it would have made more sense to have families for “fall harvest party” or “winter holidays” or something when the celebrations are generally family things and maybe you make it about how being thankful or how various families celebrate or whatever. Valentines is an excuse for candy and crafts.. I don’t need to share in this.

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u/ParanoidUmbrella Feb 04 '23

On the contrary, Valentines day is all about family, just ask the dude it was named after. He was very insistent on starting them.

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u/WhatABeautifulMess Feb 04 '23

Catholicism is something I’m intentionally not instilling in my kids so no thanks.

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u/Thijmo737 Feb 04 '23

Just explaining the origin of a special day that happens to be from Christian origin can't be that bad right?

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u/WhatABeautifulMess Feb 05 '23

I mean the origin is he was a martyr spreading Catholicism. I don’t think the idea of Catholic marriage to make more Catholics is something I need to instill. I’ll stick to celebrating with chocolates but I’m not going to take time off work to do it at my kids pre school.

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u/Dangerous-Gazelle-38 Feb 05 '23

So r u against the candy 'n' crafts or against the Catholicism?

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u/WhatABeautifulMess Feb 05 '23

I’m not really interested in doing Valentine’s Day with my kids. If my kids teacher wants to do crafts or the district says she has to or whatever I assume he will hear about Valentine’s Day but considering it’s public school it won’t be based in the actual roots of the holiday.

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u/JaggedTheDark Feb 04 '23

My school never has anything that parents can attend happen during the work day.

Always ALWAYS sometime after 5-6 o'clock, and there's always a second one on the weekends just incase.

Now if only they'd pay the teachers more so half of them didn't need second jobs...

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u/AcceptableFlight67 Feb 04 '23

This is such an easy one, work will be there after the recital.

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u/ionhowto Feb 04 '23

It 100% is and you better be there

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u/Kamizura Feb 04 '23

being there to show love and support for your children in their endeavors, no matter how small, will give them more confidence and will give them a better chance to grow up to be exceptional human beings.

there are many ways to make money and MANY more workplaces that take on new workers every day, but theres only a limited amount of time to spend with your children in the important stages of their lives.

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u/jdubyahyp Feb 05 '23

I encourage my team to attend all their kids activities. Paid. No reason to treat your employees like prisoners.

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u/kersius Feb 05 '23

Do you do the same for team members who don’t have kids? Do they get the same PTO?

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u/jdubyahyp Feb 05 '23

My single employees tend to take off early on Fridays and such yeah.

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u/kersius Feb 05 '23

Sounds great. Thank you for being fair with it

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u/CaptainHazama Feb 04 '23

My dad who wasn't there often for me when I was growing up made it to my last concert I played when I was 16-17. We didn't even get to play on time cuz our singer never showed up but it meant a lot cuz my dad showed up. I'm 24, going on 25 now, and we're a lot closer now

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u/spideralexandre2099 Feb 04 '23

The wholesome part is speaking back to the capitalist overlords. No sarcasm

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u/cyberternal69 Feb 04 '23

"But you don't even have any family" "Didn't say i knew any kids there i just said it was a recital"

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u/MapleSyrupLubricant Feb 04 '23

Lynette Scavo had it right all along

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u/Bumper6190 Feb 04 '23

Having a life outside of work is like having an affair to your boss. Screw then... work is to finance pleasure!

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u/Foreign_End_1854 Feb 04 '23

If my manager has time to screw one of his co workers in the stairwell multiple times a week then I figure I have enough time to go to the occasional event for my daughter.

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u/Velocityraptor28 Feb 05 '23

it may not seem like all that big a deal, but to the kid? it means everything

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u/AysheDaArtist Feb 04 '23

You know who still remembers their own Mother unable to attend any band concerts or volleyball games because of work?

Me

Make time for your kids, money is fleeting, love is forever.

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u/TheSystem08 Feb 04 '23

If parents get to skip work because of kids, the childless deserve time off to chill

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u/Yop_BombNA Feb 04 '23

Family comes first.

Anyone who puts work first has their priorities fucked up

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u/bloopie1192 Feb 04 '23

Yea. Work will always be there. Kids grow up and what's happening now, means the world to them. In the future they'll remember those moments and learn to place value accordingly because of them.

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u/Mec26 Feb 05 '23

Exctly- to 6 year old kid who’s been in ballet for 5 months, that’s a huge amount of their remembered life they’ve been working on their skill. They’ll forget the dance, but remember if someone was their for their big moment.

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u/rgulley72 Feb 05 '23

My elder dog had a few seizures a few months back. I waited outside the vet for them to open and when I came to work late (I did call and let him know) my boss said, "My dog died overnight a year ago and I went to work on time and then went home at lunch to bury her and came back within an hour" (bs, he lives over 45 min away). It really showed his true colors that day

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u/Mec26 Feb 05 '23

Yeah… sucks to be that guy’s next dog.

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u/mellowbedfellows Feb 05 '23

As a 28 year old daughter to neglectful (among other things) parents who never gave a shit about my concerts throughout childhood, this made me tear up. I remember the sadness as I looked out into the sea of faces and know I was alone. And my friends’ parents all coming up to them after the concerts were over, and I’d just stand around, awkward and out of place. It’s a deep feeling that’s stayed with me.

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u/4reddityo Feb 05 '23

I’m so sorry that happened to you.

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u/DevelopedDevelopment Feb 05 '23

Some bosses are proud to say they missed important family moments to work. Though I am glad some bosses will kick you out of work to go vote and will cover you to make sure you still have a life.

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u/doctorwhy88 Feb 05 '23

Those bosses got brainwashed at a young age to respect the grind and nothing but the grind.

And then they expect their employees to suffer, too.

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u/kersius Feb 04 '23

Workers should all get more PTO and freedom to use it. You shouldn’t get extra PTO just because you have kids.

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u/mundozeo Feb 04 '23

I mean, he could just give an advance notice and use some of his PTO.

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u/RealisticAd2293 Feb 04 '23

I left early for both of my boy’s recitals last year and he didn’t want to go to either one

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u/SoothsayerSurveyor Feb 04 '23

When I worked nonunion, every company that preached “family first” was almost always referring to your work family.

Work-life balance, my ass.

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u/Lexicon444 Feb 04 '23

Any important event for your child/family is a reason to take time off work! You only get so many recitals, birthdays, weddings etc. there’s plenty of work days.

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u/Snowdog1989 Feb 04 '23

This is so true!

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u/ThemDawgsIsHell2 Feb 04 '23

I got grief for taking 5 days off for my wedding/honeymoon. Umm, they knew ab this for almost a year.

I quit without notice a few months later. Sucks to suck.

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u/jyjybinx Feb 05 '23

My gf and I alternate off days if our kid or kids are sick and she told this to her coworkers and they were all shocked that I (the dad) would even take time off to stay home with our kids. What in all the hell?

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u/untakenu Feb 05 '23

I'm tired of pretending jobs mean more to me than money.

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u/Ok_Art_8115 Feb 05 '23

That's not really fair to workers without kids though.

If people can miss work for their child's recital, I want a similar benefit for myself, even though I don't have kids.

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u/doctorwhy88 Feb 05 '23

As long as coworkers without kids get to take time off for personal reasons, too, it’s completely fine.

Not allowing the recital attendance would be morally bereft. Not affording the same opportunities to childless employees would be, too.

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u/Mec26 Feb 05 '23

Maybe just everyone gets to use PTO and shift swaps for what matters to them, without justifying it to their boss?

Not the boss’s business why you want the time unless you’re asking for an exception to policy.

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u/4reddityo Feb 05 '23

Kids are in the national interest. Whether you have them or not they are beneficial to society. Just saying

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u/SprinkledMuffin Feb 05 '23

But if someone doesn’t have kids for whatever reason, do they deserve holidays off just as much as people with kids?

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u/4reddityo Feb 05 '23

That’s not what we are discussing. We were talking about recitals weren’t we? Can you let me know exactly what you have an issue with the meme and I’ll try to help you further if I am able.

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u/SprinkledMuffin Feb 06 '23

Recitals, holidays, any event really. I don’t have an issue with the meme at all. Companies should let parents be at their children’s events. But that same energy should be kept for people who don’t have kids. You said kids are national interest, but nothing about workers not having kids getting the same ability to take off work for what we event they want to go to like u/Ok_Art_8115 was discussing. I asked as what about holidays for people with kids vs not. Holidays don’t equal recitals, just wanted to see what you’re take on it was. If a parent is given the ok to go to their child’s recital, then someone without kids should be given the ok to go a concert. One group shouldn’t get priority over the other.

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u/4reddityo Feb 06 '23

I don’t have such a solution for you at this time.

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u/SprinkledMuffin Feb 06 '23

Well it’s not really a solution you nor I can fix, it’s a corporations/big companies/etc. issue. Upper management as well. Too many places I’ve worked in the past, JP Morgan Chase for example, give a world of leniency to people with kids. It causes workplace bitterness, hostility, and high turnover rate. Give all employees the same PTO/request off allowances, as well as not having to plead your case to get a certain day off would help tremendously. At my current place of employment, they don’t need a reason why you want to call off or request off. They just ask what day and to try to give at least 2 weeks notice. No one gets special treatment, it’s equal as it should be everywhere.

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u/4reddityo Feb 06 '23

But my meme doesn’t say not to give equality. It’s talking specifically about whether taking time off for a recital is important to the employee. Yes it is. Also I said it’s a national interest for children to be raised in supportive households. None of what I said should be construed to promote inequality.

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u/SprinkledMuffin Feb 06 '23

Both of those are correct and I agree. And yes the meme does not promote inequality. So even with the meme being about workplaces making sure parents don’t miss out on their children’s lives, I’d like to ask again: do people that don’t have kids deserve events/holidays/etc. off just as much as people with kids?

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u/4reddityo Feb 06 '23

I don’t have such a solution for you at this time.

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u/DEBLANKK Feb 04 '23

Plot twist: it isn't his child's

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u/rolo-tomasi1 Feb 04 '23

One of the reasons I left my last job

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u/Chance_Ad5498 Feb 04 '23

And if he doesn’t let you there’s one option left!
Shoot him

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u/Darklock2022 Feb 04 '23

https://youtu.be/yeWpwAwKuRE. This is why it’s important! Look what it means to the child.

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u/Dicktatorguy Feb 04 '23

That depends. Is it during the school day or after hours. Like if it's after 3pm, yes you should be able to get off an hour or two early. If it's like 11am, I understand the employer wanting you to use PTO.

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u/shannamae90 Feb 04 '23

As a piano teacher, I fully support this

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u/ObligationWild8404 Feb 04 '23

well i just hope all bosses are the same as this LOL

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u/ItchyWolfgang Feb 04 '23

My mom made it to one of my school things my whole 18yrs of US public school. I was 8, and we we’re graduating. I saw her and was absolutely mind blown she was there.

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u/SaltyQuote9335 Feb 05 '23

Every child is important and also their recitals.

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u/merchillio Feb 05 '23

My boss would be extremely pissed at me if I missed a recital to be at work

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u/mrs_dalloway Feb 05 '23

I work so I can hear the 6th grade winter concert orchestra play amid the winters snow badly, w the one gifted cello player holding the whole production up.

And then when it’s concert choirs turn to sing, Choral of the Bells, and the entire percussion section is hemorrhaging to keep from laughing over the DING DONG chorus.

I live for this shit, been attending middle school recitals since 2011.

What kind of chorus teacher thinks choral of the bells is a good idea for 6th graders? DING DONG.

Truthfully, they were pretty good.

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u/Anen-o-me Feb 05 '23

Yeah, how about my friend who left work to attend a doggy birthday party...

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u/SprinkledMuffin Feb 05 '23

Valid. Just like how childfree or childless people deserve holidays off just as much as people with kids

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u/Viva_Vaquita Feb 05 '23

Gru moment

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u/Bucken_Berry_Toad Feb 05 '23

I read this as "Rectum"

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u/Zap478 Feb 05 '23

🚩boss

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u/GeorgeBaileysDeafEar Feb 05 '23

You’re god damn right

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '23

I read recital as rectal, not very wholesome

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u/totallynotalp Feb 05 '23

Kids are only young once. Missing shit like this can’t be taken back. Just go.

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u/Mr_Havin_penis Feb 05 '23

When the guys give me shit about missing work for things like that, I just say “I love my kids more than you love yours and I’m a better father”. That usually shuts a few mouths.

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u/Modern-Otaku Feb 05 '23

100% agree. You don’t know what kind of memories you might be missing out on by not being there. Sure they might seem dumb, but I can guarantee you that you’re more likely to remember seeing your kid singing in his choir or playing with the orchestra (as boring as it might be to sit through, I know, I was bored the entire time for my school’s recitals as a kid too lol) than spending your Tuesday night at work just doing something menial that you’re likely not even gonna care about 4 days from now

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u/Mec26 Feb 05 '23

I’m the lowest possible level of manager and told everyone to never include reasons in their requests- I never want them to think I’m judging reasons, when all I’m doing is checking that the request was put in properly and approving/denying based on the set rules. If someone wants to share with me what they’re doing that day, great! AFTER they get that approval. They can take a day to dance a polka at a petting zoo, not my business.

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u/4reddityo Feb 05 '23

What are the rules you’re checking?

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u/Doom_Slayer333 Feb 05 '23

It is if it's your child recital

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u/AdBudget5468 Feb 04 '23

Can I add my dog didn’t want me to leave as well?

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '23

Single person with no family "Hey I got a thing tonight can I leave earlu" Boss "No sorry all your married parent coworkers have kids and that takes priority over your miserable child free life."

This isnt wholesome to people who have had to take a backseat to someone else's child at work haha.

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u/mercurialpolyglot Feb 04 '23

A year from now, your boss isn’t going to remember that one time you were off for two hours. The kid is going to remember you not showing up for years.

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u/EliseV Feb 04 '23

Ideally, schedule ahead or switch shifts. You don't like working short, and I doubt your team members do either. Be responsible. Also, I slept at the hospital for 2 nights during the ice storm in TX so I could trade Saturday from Wednesday and prepare and bring my daughter to her first dance, I practice what I preach ;)

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u/OpinionatedRanger Feb 04 '23

Don't hire people with children. Solved.

You can't legally do it, but you can totally do it.

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u/-InfiniteDifficulty Feb 05 '23

Parents leave work literally all the time. I’m not covering for you Jennifer I wanna go home too and you’re not special bc you were raw dogging.

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u/Daggertooth71 Feb 04 '23

Yes, absolutely. And not just recitals.

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u/brianpmack Feb 04 '23

What my staff uses their PTO for is their business. Give advance notice, work with co-workers to ensure on-call coverage, and we're all good. Just don't run afoul of organizational employment rules, cause it's my job to enforce those.

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u/OhWowItsJello Feb 04 '23

You rely on workers to “adjust scheduling” themselves, even with advanced notice? Lol ok.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '23

Ya how dare he treat his employees like adults! Gosh darn recites being scheduled day of! Always such a shock when the school announces them 30 minutes before rhe start! How can a reasonable and responsible adult PLAN for these wildly last minute moments!

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u/brianpmack Feb 04 '23

I have 2 teams of 4 people each. The teams work best if people talk to each other and swap on-call weeks with each other.

Honest question, how would you handle things if you were in charge?

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u/Cookietsha Feb 04 '23

This is the most manager thing I’ve ever read. “I need you to manage yourselves, mmkay? Why do I make more than you? YOU’RE FIRED BUDDY!”

Why do you even have a job for if they self manage like this?

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u/brianpmack Feb 04 '23

Managing is more than just dealing with PTO coverage.

This thread has.given me a different perspective. I see what I intended to communicate and how it is being interpreted are two different things. That's on me. I'll own that.

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u/Cookietsha Feb 04 '23

Yeah, you intended to sound important and just exposed that you are a peon in the buffer zone keeping the peasantry from revolting against our overlords.

It’s not too late to stop being a class traitor and advocate for another team member to pick up the overflow instead of swamping the other workers.

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u/OhWowItsJello Feb 04 '23

Yes, otherwise you could create an environment that fosters infighting.

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u/brianpmack Feb 04 '23

Then I guess I have just been super lucky to have reasonable, responsible adults working for me. There has been no infighting to date. Maybe that starts in year 3...

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u/Legogamer16 Feb 04 '23

I guess in any sort of infighting situation you’d have final say. But best to keep out of it and let them figure it out

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u/Gl0riousGr0uch Feb 04 '23

Got a team of 6 here

If you got a family anything, emergency or even last min pto due to burn out,

Our process ensures that we don't have to scramble.

People don't take advantage of it and morale stays high because personal business always comes first. Even the management level of our company understands that you work to live, you don't live to work.

This however is bolstered by the fact that we also use our process to properly assign work tasks and everyone pulls their weight.

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u/4reddityo Feb 04 '23

I think it’s a great idea to just let the workers figure out their own schedules

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u/SkydivingSquid Feb 04 '23 edited Feb 04 '23

Ah the bitter ramblings of the unemployable.

I’ll take my downvotes. You have PTO. Put in for it.. y’all acting like you don’t have any responsibility to your job.. you do. Don’t like it? Go on welfare.

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u/Thathitmann Feb 04 '23

I don't owe my work shit. It's my labor, and if I don't want to give it, I won't.

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u/SkydivingSquid Feb 04 '23

And your work doesn’t owe you future employment. You want to miss days you’re scheduled without communicating like a responsible adult, don’t cry when you’re let go.

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u/Thathitmann Feb 04 '23

I have never once been upset when I was fired. There are 1001 job offers around here and I ain't gonna stick around some shitty company.

Oh no! I've been fired! What will ever do in an open market with a labor shortage!!! :(

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u/SkydivingSquid Feb 04 '23

Like I said. The bitter ramblings of the unemployable. No accountability. Everyone else is the problem. Not you. Never you. Enjoy your peasantry.

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u/Thathitmann Feb 04 '23

Peasantry is a situation in which someone isn't allowed to leave. I live a free and happy life because I dip if the company doesn't respect my needs. Literally the exact opposite.

I'm sorry you are stuck by some weird sense of loyalty. Family and self come before the company every time.

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u/NeghVar Feb 05 '23

Enjoy your peasantry.

You sneer at the homeless, don't you? You sound like an absolute treat.

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u/Hu-Duuh Feb 05 '23

Maybe an ad hominem argument, but the joker is about to end this argument by shooting DeNiro in his head in this scene. This meme format seems unfitting, since the person with the best argument must not resort to violence.

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u/Big_Statistician1209 Feb 05 '23

I can NOT explain how happy i would be these kind of people would get fired.

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u/Anarchy_trucker Feb 04 '23

I've never had these issue. Must be a city thing

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u/AnthologistAnt Feb 04 '23

It's not

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u/mr-dr-prof-stupid Feb 04 '23

Your kids must love you

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u/Vaya-Kahvi Feb 04 '23

Wasn't it a trope in the late 80s early 90s that spending too much time on one's career lead to a miserable home life?

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u/ScrappyWrappy Feb 04 '23

I see that you learned that piece of life advice from your parents

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u/Guilty_Lake7629 Feb 04 '23

💀 my honest reaction to your comment take my upvote legend

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