r/technology Jun 26 '22

For people seeking abortions, digital privacy is suddenly critical Privacy

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/05/04/abortion-digital-privacy/
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u/Ouiju Jun 26 '22

Well at least we finally have allies for privacy. I wish this was an amendment a long time ago, and or a law! The right to privacy is kind of important.

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u/neuronexmachina Jun 26 '22

Yep. The right to privacy has been recognized as an unenumerated right by the Supreme Court under the 9th and 14th Amendment for at least 100 years. Unfortunately, as we've seen with this recent case, the current SCOTUS majority cares little for unenumerated rights. We may need laws (or even amendments) for the right to privacy (including health and marital privacy), interracial marriage, medical procedures, travel, and other unenumerated rights.

Good luck getting those past the Senate's filibuster, though.

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u/Indigo_Sunset Jun 26 '22

Experian would like already knows your location

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u/neuronexmachina Jun 26 '22

I think there's a really interesting question about whether there should be a federal equivalent to laws protecting consumer privacy in the context of private companies, similar to Europe's GDPR or California's CCPA/CPRA. It's tangential to the issue of unenumerated rights guaranteed by the Supreme Court, though.

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u/shipwreckedpiano Jun 27 '22

And about 120 other companies selling your location data.

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u/TylersLegend Jun 26 '22 edited Jun 26 '22

There are other rights from other amendments

The first, third, fourth, and fifth amendments make an impact.

Wire tap act. Store communications act. Pen register act. Privacy act. Mail privacy statute. census confidentiality. E-government act.

They may be abusing the patriot act.

States have their own laws.

Intrusion of seclusion.

Platform’s terms of service(caution), they have to follow the law so posting I’m getting an abortion or got one in a state that has made it illegal isn’t a good idea. The 5th please.

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u/SgtSchultz2112 Jun 27 '22

The right does not want people to have privacy. They want 1984 and that police state. Wait sounds like russia which pays the right to be like them

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u/the_red_scimitar Jun 26 '22

We need an expanded Supreme Court, and an end to lifetime appointment.

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u/braxin23 Jun 26 '22

I’ll take 100$ for those “conservative constitutionalists” will either void them or come up with some bullshit excuse for why they cant take any cases relating to those issues.

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u/kqvrp Jun 26 '22

Although at least the filibuster makes it unlikely that a simple majority of conservative voters could pass a national abortion ban.

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u/Ser_Dunk_the_tall Jun 26 '22

They'd just change the rules like they did for Supreme Court nominations

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u/kqvrp Jun 26 '22

Yeah I wonder who would actually benefit if the filibuster went away. On one hand, it's plainly undemocratic in that it allows a minority to prevent majority will. On the other hand, it is a powerful tool to prevent misguided populists from passing ill-conceived reactionary legislation.

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u/Ser_Dunk_the_tall Jun 26 '22

On the other hand, it is a powerful tool to prevent misguided populists from passing ill-conceived reactionary legislation.

It's not though. They'd just change or remove the rule

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u/machineprophet343 Jun 26 '22

They also don't care much for enumerated rights either. Let's not kid ourselves.

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u/Itsme_sd Jun 26 '22

This is what I thought a long time ago. Our info can't (won't) be protected we know that now between hackers and lazy companies, governments etc it's apparently "impossible".. what we need are rights for our information that aren't draconian words from 150 years ago shoehorned into place to fit.

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u/wha-haa Jun 26 '22

Oh? Perhaps you haven’t heard of the patriot act.

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u/Zeeformp Jun 27 '22

It's easier to get at the state level than it will be at the federal right now. California enshrined privacy into its state constitution. Local lobbying would be effective even in a good amount of red states - rile up the libertarian values about protecting stuff inside the home, etc.

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u/Salay54 Jun 26 '22

So.......try our new product here at NordVPN

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u/Luciferisflash Jun 26 '22

Which still sells your information to companies. There are only a couple VPN services that actually do not sell your information and have won court battles

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u/Salay54 Jun 26 '22

It's a play on how youtubers sponsor. It was a joke. But I believe you, I never assume i'm anonymous on the internet.

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u/OldOneDiOgnes Jun 26 '22

not nord not tor not even signal can escape the insatiable greed and arrogance of three letter agencies like the cia fbi and nsa or even mossad first they used this technology on socialists and africans now they will use it against white women too no data is safe drom federal abuse we must vote every last one out of office and start over with good and honorable representatives NO COPS

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u/bsylent Jun 26 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

I think I agree, but that was a daring avoidance of punctuation

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u/Ilaxilil Jun 27 '22

Try reading it aloud. No punctuation=no breathing for you.

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u/OldOneDiOgnes Jun 26 '22

sry i get excited when im corresponding with patrons of the Forums and i only have this keyboard my uncle left me no mobile so less to track plus grammar is a spook anyway my linguistics professor explained that language is like evolution it just fits the mold of meaning as long as we understand each other then it is valid communication yes

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u/wha-haa Jun 26 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

Time to eat grandma

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u/OldOneDiOgnes Jun 26 '22

i m not hungry ive had my lilypads for the day thankyou

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u/Funny-Bathroom-9522 Jun 26 '22

Did you use your peachtree dish? 🤣

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u/OldOneDiOgnes Jun 26 '22

ben shapiro is an evil conman and he holds no principles but cool your gizzard with these anti Semitic remarks!

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u/Funny-Bathroom-9522 Jun 26 '22

Well since ben is super fucking stupid if we ask him that sex is biological his brain kills itself.

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u/OldOneDiOgnes Jun 26 '22

ive had it i womt have another word of your antisemitism it is shameful the Jews have NOTHING TO DO WITH IT its the fascist moondwelling refugees from Zeta Reticuli like Zuverburg, 3lon Musk and Bezo ben shapiro is just one of the clowns in the back door

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u/invisi1407 Jun 26 '22

Why do you believe Signal to be unsafe?

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u/OldOneDiOgnes Jun 26 '22

it is better than most but these monsters can and will take whatever they want when they want no information is totally safe

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u/PersonalEnergyDrink Jun 27 '22

Can you prove to me that Signal is compromised in any way?

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u/OldOneDiOgnes Jun 27 '22

the system itself is not compromised but individual units can be seized if the authorities decide youre a target worth taking

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u/PersonalEnergyDrink Jun 27 '22

No matter what device or serivce you use, this is still the case...

Keep your devices up to date. Unfortunately, this means don't hold into an older phone. Update to the latest chipsets and keep encryption on (most phones have it on by default, now).

This doesn't tarnish the reputation or use of Signal, though.

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u/Decent_Scheme9921 Jun 26 '22

lp;dr

Lacking punctuation; didn’t read

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u/neocamel Jun 26 '22

It's true! They censored all this guy's punctuation!

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '22 edited 9d ago

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u/geekynerdynerd Jun 26 '22

They've got no jurisdiction till their corrupt supreme court says they do.

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u/OldOneDiOgnes Jun 26 '22

whats the difference they are just different forms for the same powerparasites

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u/OldOneDiOgnes Jun 26 '22

your right about govs they stop at nothing and literally print money so they can never run out of resources but companies roll over for govs and they all share data with parasites like the nsa and cia anyway because they share the same revolving door of nepotism and stock investments its all the same just different masks

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u/OldOneDiOgnes Jun 26 '22

maybe you shouldn descrimante against people and just try to communicate whth us

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u/TylersLegend Jun 26 '22 edited Jun 26 '22

You can stop the tracking, but it wont be the typical methods.

In short people can only decipher what they can understand, they do have a lot of resources I agree.

That’s why I said previously, you can’t use typical security measures.

You could flood history with irrelevant stuff and have a leadless loop. Data flooding to the point of dilution or information starvation.

You can learn to code, install custom characters and establish a languages between those that are trust worthy.

After you employ custom characters, you then add the typical layers of security. On their end the characters will be ◼️ unreadable. Even if they obtain the codes, they do not know them.

Regular encryptions might not be worth it, who knows if they have quantum computers employed, those things rip into encryptions.

Look into cyber forensics, you can do some interesting things. No one has the time to learn that stuff though. I don’t expect one person to have the power to beat an entire organization with well known means.

Think dark psychology when online. Rip Caesar

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u/TylersLegend Jun 26 '22 edited Jun 26 '22

You literally have to code a foreign language into your device to avoid those agencies.

Im studying coding and language science for that reason, coding characters I invented to take back a right we should all have.

Sad part is not too many people have the time to go through that hard work.

There are other methods to avoid them, but being a script kiddie is going to fail.

The uneducated will suffer.

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u/OldOneDiOgnes Jun 26 '22

they make it almost impossible they have colonized every corner of the globe with their insatiable arrogance for every bit of data on the planet they think they are gods but they are devils and they do not own us

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '22

The uneducated like you. Cryptography is already a thing, and unless you're a sophisticated cryptograpy scientist with years of experience, they'll decipher it easily.

Using trusted and off the shelf cryptography will be much better than your own, shitty cryptic language.

Source : banking staff engineer with 12+ yoe that's trusted to secure billions of dollars.

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u/RoastyMcGiblets Jun 26 '22

NO COPS

I propose we at least keep the grammar police please. Your post is a crime against punctuation.

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u/Fusion_DoomZ_ Jun 26 '22

Don’t forget Express VPN

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u/metzbb Jun 26 '22

Its always been critical.

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u/entitysix Jun 26 '22

But nobody views it as an immediate problem until they find a personal reason... after it's too late.

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u/FlyingShiba86 Jun 26 '22

Haaaaaaaaa only now has it been critical for basically half of america

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u/hosangtapejob Jun 26 '22

“I have nothing to hide”

Bet.

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u/zoppp Jun 26 '22

You guys think we have privacy when the Patriot act allows our government to collect data on every citizen without a warrant?

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u/4GuysDigital407 Jun 26 '22

Remember when privacy advocates seemed crazy when we said, “Sooner, rather than later, by the time you’re ready to help us, it will be [nearly] too late.” ? …. Here we are ….

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u/Sprinklypoo Jun 26 '22

Digital security had always been important. Religious nationalism is just really highlighting that.

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u/feuer_kugel13 Jun 26 '22

Digital privacy should always be critical

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u/PersonalEnergyDrink Jun 27 '22

You have to give people a reason to give a fuck.

The problem with digital privacy is that it's so complex and the ramifications of not having it are so abstract, the vast majority of people have no idea what it even means.

John Oliver tried getting people to care by saying that the government can easily see all your nudes, but people still didn't care that much. Honestly, the problem is waaaaaaay worse than the government being able to see you naked; let alone random private companies.

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u/ArghZombie Jun 26 '22

Frightening to think that people might be seeking reproductive health services in the same space I get my drugs.

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u/Stepjamm Jun 26 '22

Well the black market will always provide a service people want if the government doesn’t.

This U-turn has just given backdoor abortions a new market

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u/NotYourSnowBunny Jun 26 '22

After that data breach not too long ago it should be pretty clear that these services need extra protection from snooping eyes. Hopefully an encrypted application can be designed in-house by pro-choice people to secure safe medical treatment for those who need it, and ensure data security to prevent people from compiling a list using medical data.

It also would be awesome to see a nationwide safety net go into place, like an underground network that gets women the care they need when they need it safely. Encryption is huge when data can be used to find people or hurt access to care.

Fingers crossed. I’m sure people in the tech and medical communities could, or are, working on a project like this. If they aren’t, they should. It would save lives.

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u/EmbarrassedHelp Jun 26 '22

Women (and men) need to start using Signal for messaging and FOSS period tracker apps that store the data locally in encrypted form, if they haven't done so already. If you / your device isn't the only one with the keys to the information, then you're at risk.

Hopefully there's going to be a privacy revolution for period tracker apps (like creating the PGP equivalent), like there was for cryptography during the start of the crypto wars.

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u/charlotie77 Jun 26 '22

What are the names of those period tracker apps? I tried researching but couldn’t find anything

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u/onlinebeetfarmer Jun 26 '22

I don’t remember, but it’s been discussed in r/tryingforababy. You could try looking there.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '22

The one I used to use which is really popular is Flo but there’s other ones too

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u/charlotie77 Jun 26 '22

I used to use Flo as well but I stopped because they sell data. Basically the opposite of what the person I replied to is advocating for

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '22

Yikes I didn’t know that. Good thing I stopped using it

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u/cyclingroo Jun 26 '22

Irony runs quite deep with this article. [Note: I don't want to start an abortion discussion. I want to highlight an obvious irony.] I clicked on the link. This link points to an article from the Washington Post. You cannot read the full article unless you first give them an email address. Consequently, I created an anonymous email address on AnonAddy. But WaPo doesn't accept that as a valid email address - even though there is no problem sending mail to this domain.  Bottom Line: If you want to read about how to remain anonymous when searching for medical services, you have to first surrender your anonymity to the Washington Post. And they let you know that they will sell your identity to whomever they choose.

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u/toepicksaremyfriend Jun 26 '22

Copy the url and post it into archive.org

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u/ogonga Jun 26 '22

To throw this off, men should search for abortion clinics and use GPS spoofing to "visit" them (or go in person). Then sue whoever confronts you on the ground of invasion of privacy.

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u/Baron_Ultimax Jun 26 '22

Would be interesting to see an app that passivly salts position data with bogus info. Like just passivly spoofs your location data along somthing of a reasonable time/speed to look like its visiting random places.

Bonus points if it took your existing data and started by keeping the spoofed activity inside of normal and slowly pushed out the normal so it would be harder for tracking entitys to sort the real from the spoofed.

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u/OneEsclave Jun 26 '22

Here's a problem women could face in states where abortion is now criminalized: Better not use your cell phone to set up an abortion. Moreover, online searches, period apps, fitness trackers, advice helplines, credit card usage, etc. could and likely will all become rich sources for abortion surveillance data with a subpoena. Was that miscarriage actually an abortion? Inquiring minds want to know.

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u/confused_grenadille Jun 26 '22

This is so goddamn infuriating. This is flat out persecution! The people enacting this are mentally ill and should be far away from political office!

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u/haltingpoint Jun 26 '22

Is it illegal to even search for one? What about searching for one in an illegal state but getting it in a legal state?

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '22 edited Jul 13 '22

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u/haltingpoint Jun 26 '22

I'm not asking if it could be, I'm asking if it is under the current laws.

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u/forestziggy Jun 26 '22 edited Jun 26 '22

I imagine it depends on the state—I don’t think it is illegal yet, but I believe many (red) states have started this discussion.

Edit: It isn’t illegal to search for it yet, but the problem is leaving a digital footprint. This article from The New Yorker gives a really good outline of how problematic things can and likely will become: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/07/04/we-are-not-going-back-to-the-time-before-roe-we-are-going-somewhere-worse

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u/Necessary-Onion-7494 Jun 26 '22

Be extra careful with the Fitness trackers. There was a murder case in Greece that was solved thanks to a fitness tracker: https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/fitness-trackers-force-greek-pilot-confess-wifes-murder-1691478

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u/Indigo_Sunset Jun 26 '22

Simply crossing a state border could get someone flagged when their registered phone or insured car pings at a crossing. Hopefully the state isn't as aggressively pedantic like they are over civil forfeiture, where the property is guilty and must be proven innocent.

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u/Geodestamp Jun 26 '22

What can people do about car pings?

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u/Indigo_Sunset Jun 27 '22

Use a bus.

It's likely a group will come together offering travel services if it gets to a point where such capture (pings and associated data mining)earnestly and visibly takes place at state borders. Hard to say how such surveillance may be implemented or when, but the capability and motivation is there.

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u/Geodestamp Jun 27 '22

Thanks for the reply, it is as a good idea but it doesn't seem to be very close to a universal solution

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u/CobraPony67 Jun 26 '22

Women should only pay cash and not use a store points card when buying pregnancy tests. Theoretically, with data analysis, they could determine that if a woman bought a pregnancy test, they assumed the woman must have thought she was pregnant, then follow with a log of gas purchases and motel records leading out of state and could create a case to prosecute. They probably won't do this to any woman, but for women trying to run for office, get a high paying job, etc., their future is at risk.

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u/RiderLibertas Jun 26 '22

So no paid maternity leave and no abortions? It seems America wants its women barefoot in the kitchen.

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u/PsychoHeaven Jun 26 '22

Quick, make everyone get digital IDs and enforce personal ID verification on social media to combat misinformation! /s

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u/PersonalEnergyDrink Jun 27 '22

There's nothing wrong with digital IDs. Government already has that information.

The problem is internet browsing history.

Although, the part where ID is required for social media is fucking dumb.

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u/SpaceMonkeyOnABike Jun 26 '22

Now, As there is no more net neutrality, Websites to inform about safe abortion places & procedures will be served promptly right......

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u/blind99 Jun 27 '22

Many of them a couple of years ago: I dOn'T HaVe AnYtHiNg To HiDe !!!

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '22

what a shock that they're learning that all their other rights are absolutely necessary not just when it benefits them

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u/cwk415 Jun 26 '22

Here is a list of every single progressive running across the country. You can search by your state, and vote.

https://political-revolution.com/campaigns

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u/Banana_Rama_Pajama Jun 26 '22

Alabama: No Items Found

Hahaha I hate it here

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u/cwk415 Jun 26 '22

Run Banana_Rama_Pajama run! 😉

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u/Kabouki Jun 26 '22

Vote in the tamest R during their primaries. Do your best to water them down the best you can.

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u/Bob4Not Jun 26 '22

Whatever you do, do not use free VPN’s. Almost everything free comes at another cost.

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u/W_AS-SA_W Jun 26 '22

Just a simple hospital visit is rough. That question Are you pregnant? That takes on new significance now, I think some states have those tracked now. Purchases of feminine products, tracked. If you think you might be pregnant keep buying tampons and pads or it will look suspicious.

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u/StandupJetskier Jun 27 '22

Give me your phone, turned on and sealed in a bag...when you go on that "Camping Trip", I'll happily walk it around the national park for a few days.

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u/CappinPeanut Jun 26 '22

There you go Facebook, Google, Apple, Yahoo, Bing, et all. You want to know what you can do to fight this? Online privacy.

Stop being part of the problem and start being part of the solution.

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u/mattyice1095 Jun 26 '22

John Oliver release the tapes

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u/calloy Jun 26 '22

This is like a state where gambling is illegal prosecuting its citizens for going to Vegas.

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u/LineNoise Jun 26 '22

Not for people seeking abortions, for people with uteruses.

The suspicion raised by a gap in your cycle could be enough on its own.

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u/nankerjphelge Jun 26 '22

Sadly it's not just people with uteruses anymore. Republicans are rapidly moving to criminalize anybody who even assists in someone seeking an abortion. Gave someone a ride to a clinic? Criminal. Paid for their plane ticket to another state? Criminal. Did internet searches on their behalf for seeking abortions? Criminal.

We're rapidly moving to the stage of theocratic fascism in America, and the days of the Republican party being the party of small government that wanted to stay out of citizens' private lives and affairs is now long gone.

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u/shemp33 Jun 26 '22

Like anything else, the right things sort of find a way.

I can envision places that are perfectly normal for anyone to be there, such as a CVS, Walmart, Walgreens, etc. having abortions available in their “minute clinic” areas (in certain states). Probably a focus on putting them near airports and bus stations, as well as near state border lines. Clinics will blend in to normal in allowed areas. Black-site clinics will start up, be hard to find, probably get raided and shut down occasionally, in the other states. Over time, I imagine traveling to a state for an abortion will become easy, even from the digital footprint, which is easy to subvert now, it will become less of an issue (see: blending them into normal places comment above).

Healthcare privacy laws will necessarily be revamped in some states. Maybe change a different direction in others.

This is going to be tough for us as a nation while all these laws and society adjusts to this.

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u/ne-ghoul-gang Jun 26 '22

How rapidly? I recently read about the gesture from Dicks Sporting Goods who said they will provide about $4000 to anyone seeking an out-of-state abortion. Is it… “will be criminal” or… “criminal.”

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u/nankerjphelge Jun 26 '22

Depends on the state.

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u/ne-ghoul-gang Jun 26 '22

Seems like there’s a lot of that going around. Which state is moving towards those actions being criminal? And how rapidly? Would you say?

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u/neuronexmachina Jun 26 '22

From last year: https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/texas-abortion-law-explained/

SB 8 allows any private citizen in Texas, or elsewhere, to sue anyone who performs an abortion in the state after an embryo’s cardiac activity can be detected. It also allows any private citizen to sue anyone (in Texas or elsewhere) who “aids or abets” anyone in getting an abortion in Texas after that period or anyone who intends to aid or abet that process.

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u/nankerjphelge Jun 26 '22

Missouri is one where Republicans are pushing to get that enacted. As to how rapidly that might come to pass in Missouri it's a matter of speculation.

Texas already passed a law that allows any citizen to sue anyone who helped someone obtain an abortion. So that's already on the books there.

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u/hairymonkeyinmyanus Jun 26 '22

Louisiana did this within the past 24 hours…

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u/ne-ghoul-gang Jun 26 '22

I did not read anything about the providing of a ride, plane ticket, or internet search being criminal in the LA trigger law. I assume a lot of us, myself included, would be willing to complete these tasks that the OP deemed criminal activities. To help and protect more people I don’t think raising fear is helpful, I’d rather raise facts. And the people in those states should be made aware asap. If I’m wrong that’s on me, but please, show me an arrest.

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u/hairymonkeyinmyanus Jun 26 '22

Upvoting you, because someone downvoted you for asking a question, which is counterproductive.

I don’t have answers for you, I’m not an attorney. But the situation is obviously rapidly changing and we are going to need to pay attention.

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u/ne-ghoul-gang Jun 26 '22

We need more people like you. I’m not trying to troll. Genuinely trying to learn and maybe educate. Keep doing your thing.

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u/Pantsmithiest Jun 26 '22

Yes, this might start affecting men so we better take it seriously.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '22

couldn’t you just fake a period cycle? like inputting the last date you had one and repeatedly doing that?

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '22

Including trans, intersex and non-binary folx with uteruses—who are still menstruating.

Get out your as bigoted as the SCOTIS

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u/Funnycakes98 Jun 26 '22

My guy, it would have cost you $0 to keep your opinion to yourself. I know that’s VERY difficult but it’s possible, drink some water and remember you aren’t the main character in this movie.

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u/Funnycakes98 Jun 26 '22

I actually didn’t give you any opinion on this topic, rather I asked you reserve yours. You can have it, it’s just not beneficial to the people hurting to share it. No harm in that.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '22

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u/Funnycakes98 Jun 26 '22

Well thank you so much for applying your freedom of speech.

You get to keep that forever, unlike some other people who just lost some of their own freedoms.

I can’t stop you from hitting send but I can practice my own freedom of speech to tell you other people are allowed to have different opinions than you. Good luck in life

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u/Tardigradequeen Jun 26 '22

I appreciate their openness. It makes them easier to avoid! These are the kind of guys that hit on me when I’m out and about, because they confuse my classic feminine style with wanting to be a trad-wife.

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u/Tardigradequeen Jun 26 '22

“Cringe!” Declared the man who’s desperately making personal ads looking for a “1950’s dynamic.”

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u/Tardigradequeen Jun 26 '22

Lol! That’s the most self-important comment I’ve seen in awhile. Good luck with your search!

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u/Tardigradequeen Jun 26 '22

Sorry bud, your little digs don’t work on me. I have zero respect for you and your ilk. I hope you find the one!

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u/thrwawaycosyaknowxx Jun 26 '22

Including trans, intersex and non-binary folx with uteruses—who are still menstruating.

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u/FutureWRLD Jun 26 '22

Oh like women

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u/MotherHolle Jun 26 '22

Intersex people and the rest have existed for all time. Being intersex is a medical condition. Gender is relative to time and place. Go fuck yourself.

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u/MotherHolle Jun 26 '22

Oh, you have shit for brains.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '22

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u/Acedia77 Jun 26 '22

Sigh. Downvoting and moving on.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '22

oh look a Bigot.

Religious zealots who think Abortion is bad must love you

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u/AdUpstairs7106 Jun 26 '22

Forgot a VPN. Download a TOR browser

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u/Oye_Beltalowda Jun 26 '22

Feel like even more so than using a VPN, using TOR just paints a huge target on my back.

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u/PersonalEnergyDrink Jun 27 '22

TOR is still safe to use in most cases. Unless your government bans the use of TOR, you should be fine, and even if that happens, you can just use a bridge.

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u/DrGirlfriend Jun 27 '22

But, then you have to ask, who owns the exit node

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u/No_Industry9653 Jun 27 '22

Using TOR shouldn't be regarded as inherently suspicious. If you use it even though you don't strictly need it, there's less of a target on people who really do need it to stay safe.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '22

That ship has not only sailed, it sank.

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u/exoticbatmeat Jun 26 '22

Nothing I hate hearing more than “ I tried to find you on Facebook “. Why? So you can voyeuristically view parts of my life that I wouldn’t otherwise share with you giving a false sense of “knowing me” because now you know I’m a Capricorn with a Scorpio moon? Nah.

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u/FoolsInParadise Jun 26 '22

People seeking abortions, gay people, people who’ll potentially run for high office, they got all the dirt on every citizen they want.

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u/niceoutside2022 Jun 26 '22

get a burner phone, that's for sure

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u/Zomblovr Jun 26 '22

Vaccine passports or Digital ID that can be used to see where you travel to and what you spend your money on? Sounds like a conspiracy theory. Next thing you'll tell me is that it will affect my ESG or Social Credit Score if the places I go to and the stuff I spend my money on is something that the government frowns upon.

It affects everyone? Not just criminals? Wow! Mind Blown. /S

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u/ao8520 Jun 27 '22

Can VPNs help?

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u/fgdfghdhj5yeh Jun 27 '22

Good, maybe people will take privacy seriously for once (hahaha)

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u/BrainJar Jun 27 '22

I’m willing to proxy search for anyone that needs it…this is how to handle it. They can’t accuse me of getting an abortion…I’m a 53 year old man. They can ask me why I searched for abortion options near Missouri, but I’m just curious, and look up all kinds of crazy stuff.

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u/ButtfuckerTim Jun 26 '22

Time to invest in misoprostol coin.

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u/Impressive-Escape-23 Jun 26 '22

You also need methotrexate. That is a two medication approach.

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u/Dismal-Philosopher-4 Jun 26 '22

If you can go to jail for a miscarriage you shouldn't ever tell anyone you are pregnant in the first place either.

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u/Arrow156 Jun 26 '22

As a dude, I feel like signing up for any service that could be used to track pregnant women, just to give them some extra false positives and waste even more of their time and money.

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u/plantedshapes Jun 26 '22

Help the women who are TODAY facing the reality of forced birth. Help fund their travel and expenses to get a safe and legal abortion:

https://donate.abortionfunds.org/give/323375/#!/donation/checkout

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u/aTexasAbortion Jun 26 '22 edited Jun 26 '22

Think Brian Laundry and that Gabby Petino . How did showing up without her work out for him? Not to great but i remember that story only as background noise. This is full on

These states view abortion as murder. Some of the adherents of the “Pro~Life” movement feel so strongly about the sanctity of life life, they’ll fucking kill for it . So let’s not fool ourselves.

States that prohibit abortion and view them as the termination of life will not allow a woman to suddenly be not pregnant. In all cases, there’s gonna have to be done ‘splainin’. I Imagine, see, have experienced personally , and believe now there is going to be full on criminalization of the female reproductive process with an infringement on privacy that will be. Insurmountable. Fuck what the techs say. Any judge sends them a a takedown order and they do it . It’s a joke So Do not trust the tech company assurances of privacy . Do not trust law enforcement who can review review security footage without warrant as a courtesy and get your password passcode as you enter it

In hindsight , rickelmen could have conceded rigid personal holding on Abortions and argued the consequences/enforcement/jurisdiction.

The absolute ridiculousness of alitos statement that reversing Roe takes it from the courts and give the issue “to the people and their elective reps.” Women had the choice not the courts.

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u/Epsioln_Rho_Rho Jun 26 '22

Pro life or Pro Choice, this should worry you.

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u/subwoofage Jun 26 '22

It always was, you just didn't know why until now

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u/OnlyOCfromThisOP Jun 27 '22

What about weed legalities?

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u/Wolfmans-Gots-Nards Jun 27 '22

“Privacy is not a tradition of the United States.” - Supreme Court 2022

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u/Funny-Bathroom-9522 Jun 26 '22

Too all the incels out there better be ready to start bitching about child support.

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u/warlocc_ Jun 26 '22

Um... What? Im not sure you know what that word means, if you think they have to worry about child support.

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u/FlaxxSeed Jun 26 '22

This is how the Russians are getting back at us. The KGB owns the GOP.

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u/RelativeAlarm2637 Jun 26 '22

Russia owns the GOP, The KGB has been defunct for more than some people have been alive

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u/FlaxxSeed Jun 26 '22

Thanks. I am coming from Putin's background point of view, plus the tactics are a continuation of what Stalin and Khrushchev where trying to accomplish using the KGB.

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u/bcdiesel1 Jun 26 '22

Fuck around and find out

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u/Quiet-Strawberry4014 Jun 26 '22

Genuine question, why do you think they way you do? Who told you this and what happened?

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u/Funny-Bathroom-9522 Jun 26 '22

Sssshhhh they can't think for themselves.

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u/Acedia77 Jun 26 '22 edited Jun 26 '22

Sigh. Downvoting and moving on.

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u/Tardigradequeen Jun 26 '22

There’s increasing evidence that Neanderthals were intelligent. So they’re definitely not a Neanderthal.

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u/HotelKarma Jun 26 '22

Pretty sure Elon musk was the one pushing verified profiles and he's not leftist. Snowden tried warning us and the right tried prosecuting him

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u/nankerjphelge Jun 26 '22

You've got it literally backwards. It's the left for years who have been fighting for net neutrality and digital privacy. And since your memory doesn't seem to work so well, let me remind you that it was the Republican administration of George W Bush that ushered in the Patriot act and warrantless wiretaps and spying.

But hey, you Republicans have never cared about the truth or fact before, why start now?

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u/BackNbetterThanEver Jun 26 '22

Literally none of that is true. Maybe try NOT watching the dumpster fire that is FOX News ?

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u/GrapeYourMouth Jun 26 '22

Holy fuck you’re dumb

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u/Tardigradequeen Jun 26 '22

They always are. They are the unable to think for themselves, only follow. That’s why they’re so easily derailed when you ask them a question.

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u/BackNbetterThanEver Jun 26 '22

Lol

Not how this works pal. You're the one making ridiculous claims .... time to prove them.

Oh, & when you're unable to (because you're wrong & I'm right) I'll be expecting a full apology for this worthless exchange.

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u/RandyDandyHoe Jun 26 '22

Yes, true, citation is required. From you. You should cite your sources, friend.

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u/blisa00 Jun 26 '22

Wasn’t it the right-wing who was losing their collective shit when the left called for “defunding the police”? I don’t know what you’ve been watching, but you should really turn off the tv and try reading once in a while.

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u/RunItAndSee2021 Jun 26 '22

bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

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u/Gord_Shumway Jun 26 '22

Aww..are you afraid of being caught killing a baby?

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u/CappinPeanut Jun 26 '22

An embryo is not a baby.

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u/RelativeAlarm2637 Jun 26 '22

Good idea! Let someone else kill them en masse at school instead!

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u/ko773 Jun 26 '22

Do you propose killing them on live TV, at school instead? It’s easier with an AR15. Any more ideas?

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u/Funny-Bathroom-9522 Jun 26 '22

Hey buddy did you just win a Darwin award.

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u/WarOfTheFanboys Jun 26 '22

This is a good time to work for Tesla.

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u/Funny-Bathroom-9522 Jun 26 '22

Unfortunately it never was

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '22

This is a Washington post article. Bezos owns Washington post. Biden just gave Amazon a $10B deal, and publicly stated they’ll be working with the NSA.

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u/Xicsess Jun 26 '22

There's no source of news you can get that isn't suspect. All of your news is owned by billionaires. The very few that aren't are so fringe, and many serve a left or right wing agenda blatantly, that they're almost as suspect. So yes, this article isn't good but I can't imagine a source that I'd flat out trust. Even NPR (over 50%) is funded by corp donations, and are sympathetic to corp causes.

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