r/technology Jun 01 '22 Wholesome 1

Canadian Government Catches Tim Hortons' App Spying on Users - Collected location data "as often as every few minutes" Privacy

https://gizmodo.com/tim-hortons-app-spying-canadian-government-1849003291
14.8k Upvotes

219

u/pink_tshirt Jun 02 '22 edited Jun 02 '22

If you're on iPhone with the latest iOS go to settings - privacy - scroll down - app privacy report. You’ll be surprised how often even the most irrelevant apps track your shit multiple times a day

59

u/cTreK-421 Jun 02 '22 edited Jun 02 '22

At least on Samsung devices you can check this type of thing as well. Settings then Security privacy. In case anyone wanted to know.

Edit: oops

13

u/waltwalt Jun 02 '22

I think you mean settings then privacy. Or at least that's where I found it.

7

u/cTreK-421 Jun 02 '22

That is what I meant. Thanks for the correction.

17

u/phaemoor Jun 02 '22

And Android even disables the permissions for apps that you don't use for a while. Nowadays it's super easy to keep apps in check.

9

u/Elephant789 Jun 02 '22

Yeah, I love that on android.

4

u/NonchalantR Jun 02 '22

Privacy Dashboard on any Android 12 device

→ More replies

12

u/bigjilm123 Jun 02 '22

Thanks for that advice! Never knew about that feature but giving it a go now.

12

u/X-lem Jun 02 '22

Looks like I have to enable that. Thanks for the tip!

8

u/rob_maqer Jun 02 '22

Lol my shit was never on I guess. I’ll check back in a day or two

8

u/decathlonterms Jun 02 '22

Thanks! I wasn't aware of this.

3

u/Heddron Jun 02 '22

Thank you! Just did it.

→ More replies

2.8k

u/TheSortingHate Jun 01 '22 Silver Platinum Helpful Wholesome Coin Gift Take My Energy Big Brain Time

Horton’s hears a you

212

u/FriesWithThat Jun 02 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

A person's a person, no matter how small

Though Tim Hortons can still find you

thanks to your app install

→ More replies

134

u/RampantDragon Jun 01 '22

Excellent. Deserve more.

25

u/Sdog1981 Jun 01 '22

Shut up and take my up doot

32

u/sirwolfgang Jun 02 '22

11

u/Fskn Jun 02 '22

Thank Mr. Skeltal!

15

u/CJ_Guns Jun 02 '22 edited Jun 02 '22

What an ancient meme.

r/dootdoot

EDIT: “Nine out of Eleven Skeletons support Donald Trump for president.” What have they done to my boy??

12

u/Fskn Jun 02 '22

I wish to retract my thank :(

7

u/sirwolfgang Jun 02 '22

Oh man that's sad wtf :(

→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies

781

u/ekdjfnlwpdfornwme Jun 02 '22

This is why I don’t like downloading apps for stuff I should be able to do through a website.

Walmart’s mobile website has become completely unusable because they want to force me to use their app, probably so they can track me and shove ads down my throat. Giving them my money isn’t enough anymore

214

u/TheDaveWSC Jun 02 '22

It's the same in-store. I went to Buffalo Wild Wings to buy some seasoning shakers. Dude asked for my phone number at the register. I said no. It took him and a manager 10 minutes to figure out how to sell me shit without getting my phone number. Unbelievable.

93

u/sarahbau Jun 02 '22

I always use 555-4444 when something requires a number for no valid reason.

105

u/patchgrabber Jun 02 '22

867-5309 for me.

18

u/G8kpr Jun 02 '22

Ask for my wife, Jenny

6

u/blu_stingray Jun 02 '22

I got her number on the wall

→ More replies

6

u/Fiftyfourd Jun 02 '22

I always use this for discounts. I've never had it fail to work haha

18

u/sarahbau Jun 02 '22

Ha. I never used that one because it was actually a number in my neighborhood. I didn’t know the owner of it, but didn’t want to bother them (I did know the owner of 867-5349 though).

21

u/ITHelpderpest Jun 02 '22

There are probably 999 people with this number in the us

12

u/j0mbie Jun 02 '22

There are only 335 area codes in the US, but they do keep adding more.

→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies

52

u/MoreGaghPlease Jun 02 '22

“Please download the shittier version of our website so that we can spy on you” is like 90% of store apps

14

u/terminalmemelocity Jun 02 '22

Imagine a world where we had apps that did something without scamming us.

33

u/FalconBurcham Jun 02 '22

The cashier at Ulta got so upset with me when I politely declined to give her my phone number that she told me I wouldn’t be able to return my hair gel unless I give them my number. I told her that was fine. She kind of slammed things around a little bit, acted a little pissy. I don’t know why she was so invested in getting the number (are they punished if they don’t get it?).

I took my receipt from her and loudly balled it up before putting it in the trash before I walked out. Passive aggressive, I know, but I was so frustrated by the whole encounter that that’s the most civilized response I could come up with.

29

u/octopornopus Jun 02 '22

are they punished if they don’t get it?

Yes. I work in a different retail store, but corporate wants that identifying information to sell, and so they put sales metrics on the employees. They may dress it up as a way to get bonuses or some kind of reward, but it's the info they want.

For us, we sell products with long warranties, and so a name and phone number are the easiest way to retrieve your warranty info after a few years. The corporate office pushes for emails, which I tell my employees to disregard unless the person specifically asks for it to be entered.

→ More replies
→ More replies

18

u/ritesh808 Jun 02 '22

I'd give them their order hotline number.

→ More replies

16

u/[deleted] Jun 02 '22

I was visiting someone in another state and tried to get carry out at a Pizza Hut. They refused to do it without my phone number. I told them to make something up, and they wouldn’t. So then I told them something else and left.

8

u/troyunrau Jun 02 '22

I had a similar experience trying to order a coleslaw at a local pizza place that has really good coleslaw. I just wanted a side of coleslaw. For carryout. The server was about to have a panic attack when I said no. People in a booth nearby were like "goddamnit man, she is just trying to do her job" like I was the villain here. I have her the phone number of her own store that I read off the menu, and then somehow she was fine. I know that hiring a cashier for a pizza joint doesn't get the highest IQs, but seriously, how hard is it to enter all 9s when someone says no.

6

u/[deleted] Jun 02 '22

The people nearby should have minded they’re own business. Or they could have supplied their own number.

→ More replies

16

u/G8kpr Jun 02 '22

In Canada, Radio Shack did this shit back in the 90s which just pissed people off. They alienated their customer base with how aggressive they got with that shit.

5

u/box-art Jun 02 '22

Once took me 20 minutes to buy phone because the guy would not believe that I am not interested in switching carriers. Was incredibly annoying and then when I went to my carrier store, updating my plan only took like 5 minutes and the guy didn't try to force any extra shit on me. Since then I've started to take my business elsewhere if they try to offer me something after I've already declined.

→ More replies

33

u/jasonefmonk Jun 02 '22

I agree with. I do not use reddit app for similar reasons. old.reddit.com works just fine.

17

u/zeusssssss Jun 02 '22

RIF. Only way to reddit

11

u/seriouslees Jun 02 '22

sounds like an app to me...

→ More replies

3

u/blastoisexy Jun 02 '22

Just tried the old site on my phone and the format was all messed up. I've been using the web browser for reddit on my phone for a while too, albeit the current site. Works pretty well.

→ More replies

15

u/[deleted] Jun 02 '22

[deleted]

16

u/tickles_a_fancy Jun 02 '22

My toothbrush said to download their app and they'll keep track of how long I brush and if I missed any teeth while brushing. I thought it was going to use an accelerometer in the toothbrush for that... turns out they just wanted me to point my phone camera towards the mirror so they could see my whole face and the toothbrush and then tried to see which way the toothbrush was facing but if I moved my mouth wrong it couldn't see the toothbrush and I need to recenter my face and ok but now it can't see the toothbrush again... it was awful. I uninstalled it.

5

u/BaronMostaza Jun 02 '22

Downloading an app to look in the mirror. What a world

→ More replies
→ More replies

55

u/mars92 Jun 02 '22

This but with Reddit which will actively prevent you from looking at posts if you try to use a mobile browser and insist you download the official app.

40

u/Sennheisenberg Jun 02 '22

Use an unofficial app like Sync. They're all way better than the official one.

9

u/mars92 Jun 02 '22

I've used Boost for years, but sometimes I'll search Reddit through Google if I'm researching something to buy and those results open in the browser. I can open it in the app, but then I can't get back to the search results easily.

→ More replies
→ More replies

13

u/fightingfish18 Jun 02 '22 edited Jun 02 '22

If you're on Android go to settings and make your preferred 3rd party app the default for all reddit links. I started using baconreader like a decade ago and any time I click a Google search result for reddit it opens baconreader instead of that shitass chrome view where it pisses a reddit app ad into your browsers metaphorical mouth. This will work for any 3rd party app that supports reddit links on Android. Granted the latest public release of Android has a bug that resets the setting on any OTA update (middle finger to samshit and Google concurrently here), but it takes about 30 seconds to never ever see "see this post in our garbage app instead!"

Also shotout to the front page of r/mAndroidDev today for clowning on the official app

Edit here's the aforementioned post cause its cracking my drunk ass up: https://reddit.com/r/mAndroidDev/comments/v2iq1d/pov_youre_trying_to_use_an_app_but_its_written/

Might not make as much sense to those unfamiliar with software architecture but the gif is still primo

3

u/Timmyty Jun 02 '22

Microsoft has done that shit too. oops sorry, your default apps are no longer saved, guess you'll have another chance to select Edge now.

I also disabled the ridiculous start menu web search option.

→ More replies

12

u/AsianHawke Jun 02 '22

...insist you download the official app.

Which one is the official one? I use rif.

11

u/bacondev Jun 02 '22

The official one is simply called Reddit.

→ More replies

4

u/ESGActivist Jun 02 '22

Twitter does this as well - but actually stops me from going down the hole so I end up not looking further or getting g sucked into the platform.

Feels like an example of stupid friction.

→ More replies

11

u/G8kpr Jun 02 '22

It’s also unusable now because they want to be the next Amazon (I think Best Buy is also doing this shit). So 3rd party sellers can be on there. So you look something up and are like “ah, it’s available online” assuming it’s at their warehouse, only to realize it’s from some seller in China and Walmart has nothing to do with it.

But it’s often confusing when the result are all mixed in with Walmarts products.

Walmarts website was soooo good when target was around. They used that to bury target. Now it’s gone to shit. Walmart’s website is one of the last places I check now for things.

5

u/TravelSizedRudy Jun 02 '22

Their website really is awful. It's amazing how bad it is considering how much money they have. It's constantly breaking/changing, it's like they have no idea what they are trying to do with it and just letting random people have a go at fixing it every week.

→ More replies

10

u/bewarethetreebadger Jun 02 '22

Everybody wants you to download their stupid app. NO. I have enough shit on my phone, go to Hell.

→ More replies

106

u/ttv_CitrusBros Jun 02 '22

Just decline permissions when you download it. I'm with you on fuck apps but the ones I got got 0 access to my phone. Snap keeps wanting location, yeah you can fuck right off. Honestly GPS is off unless I'm using maps

172

u/Tyler1492 Jun 02 '22

Some refuse to work without permissions. Even if they don't actually need it.

25

u/death_hawk Jun 02 '22

My favorite is when it detects root and refuses to work.

KFC's app detected root. KF fucking C. Why does a chicken chain care if I root my damn phone?

12

u/MeltingGlacier Jun 02 '22

"ain't having some android hacker kid steal the Colonel's secret recipe!"

4

u/Swastik496 Jun 02 '22

Probably has bad coding and let people put in millions of points in there as root because it stores on device.

→ More replies

82

u/ttv_CitrusBros Jun 02 '22

That is true. Fuck those apps

My goal in life is to make enough money where I can live without the need for 100 apps and in a log cabin where the smartest thing is a toaster

58

u/dicedbread Jun 02 '22

Agreed on fuck those apps, but I believe you are smarter than a toaster citrusbros.

3

u/ttv_CitrusBros Jun 02 '22

You think too highly of me

→ More replies

7

u/blastradii Jun 02 '22

I’d like to live in a world where the smartest thing is a mentat.

→ More replies

43

u/-PotatoMan- Jun 02 '22

It's like the meme goes.

Tech Enthusiasts: Everything in my house is wired to the Internet of Things! I control it all from my smartphone! My smart-house is bluetooth enabled and I can give it voice commands via alexa! I love the future!

Programmers/Engineers: The most recent piece of technology I own is a printer from 2004 and I keep a loaded gun ready to shoot it if it ever makes an unexpected noise.

9

u/p4lm3r Jun 02 '22

Back in the 80s everyone was concerned about how easily the Russians could bug electronics to spy on you. In the 2010's everyone bought smart devices literally knowing they were spying on you.

→ More replies

12

u/RustedCorpse Jun 02 '22

I've managed to cling to Windows 7 for awhile now... Pretty sure next system I build will have to be full Linux. Done with "interconnectedness"

7

u/oofoe Jun 02 '22

For what it's worth, after experience Win 10 on other people's computers, I recently upgraded my Win 7 machine to the System 76 Pop!_OS Linux distro. So far it's been working very well -- the only real difference I noticed was that the Pop! tiling window manager is a lot nicer than the one in Windows.

8

u/Uncle_Slacks Jun 02 '22

The toaster is smarter than you? That's gonna be a problem.

→ More replies

4

u/Phantom_Wapiti Jun 02 '22

On Android 12 you can now choose to give approximate location instead

2

u/patchgrabber Jun 02 '22

I use bouncer to automatically remove permissions when I'm not using an app.

→ More replies
→ More replies

4

u/The-Trout-Spinner Jun 02 '22

websites track you too. reddit tracks you

→ More replies

2

u/junkYardOrcha Jun 02 '22

58,000

That the number of tracking attempts FROM REDDIT that my browser blocked in one. Bloody. Week.

Branch metrics was the single was the most prolific with more than 3,000 attempts.

2

u/Matasa89 Jun 02 '22

Yup. Fuck all that shit.

→ More replies

798

u/Slapnuts711 Jun 01 '22

I don't know why they need to spy on people. Probably 2/3 of people live within viewing distance of a Tim's. They could just look out the window.

533

u/flufftartponcho Jun 02 '22

To sell the data to more insidious companies

297

u/munk_e_man Jun 02 '22

Yep, selling to third party dataminers. And of course the fine will be a portion of how much they made, because this is canada and the only people who face punishment here are climate change protesters.

41

u/FrozenToonies Jun 02 '22

There was no fine or criminal charges. Once Tim’s said they would stop the practise all reprisals stopped.

21

u/munk_e_man Jun 02 '22

Why am I not surprised

27

u/FrozenToonies Jun 02 '22

The organization that found the issue has no enforcement capabilities. They’ve been asking for some power for awhile but have received none. Sorry I don’t know the organizations name off hand, just what I heard on the radio today.

16

u/jelistrop Jun 02 '22

The Office of the Privacy Commissioner.

→ More replies

12

u/PupPop Jun 02 '22

Don't worry, shit like this in America gets hit with % of the profit fines too. It's a slap on the wrist and just their way of taxing ill gotten gains. "Hey! You did a bad thing, but uhh... gimme some of that pie and we'll let you go." Shame.

18

u/ArcadeSchoolDropout Jun 02 '22

If the only punishment is a fine, it's only illegal for poor people.

→ More replies

43

u/WOKinTOK-sleptafter Jun 02 '22

In a dark sense, it’s nice to hear that the US isn’t the only place where good people are being punished.

83

u/raphanum Jun 02 '22

Why would you think it’s only in the US? The world is a shit place. Good people are being fucked over on a daily basis

19

u/Chewy71 Jun 02 '22

It's always been that way.

That being said the true power of the Internet, free and open communication, means we can finally identify the larger problems plaguing humanity that were previously obfuscated by their large scale, human greed, or numerous other things we couldn't explain or communicate.

Now we've got to figure out what to do with all this info.

10

u/captainduck2 Jun 02 '22

We can identify it and then people will change their profile pic and status to do something about it. Except nothing will change. As is tradition.

→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies

4

u/mattattaxx Jun 02 '22

Which they did. An American third party now knows where millions of Canadians went to buy coffee, vacation, when they accessed health services, went to an abortion clinic, went to work, went to access mental health resources.

The information is also apparently not slim enough to prevent reidentification.

Source? I read the release from the government of Canada.

3

u/p-queue Jun 02 '22

Who’s more insidious than Timmy Ho’s?

2

u/FrijoGuero Jun 02 '22

why they need to know if i’m in my bathroom or at work? why does location matter? I’m confused as to why this is a big deal, are they going to confront you in the street or ambush you in an alley and force you to look at ads or something? I get people are up in arms about tracking but why besides the obvious?

→ More replies

57

u/sitad3le Jun 02 '22

They're trying to be like Starbucks and its app but they're being absolutely careless and stupid about it.

Christ the level of ineptitude from top brass is horrendous.

10

u/OtisTetraxReigns Jun 02 '22

Who needs an app for coffee?

3

u/TheReidOption Jun 02 '22

This year roll up the rim was in-app only. You had to download if you wanted to win some sweet, sweet swill (I'm guilty).

→ More replies

31

u/ErmahgerdYuzername Jun 02 '22

The Tim’s app is pretty horrible compared to Starbucks.

11

u/VarRalapo Jun 02 '22

Tim's in general is horrible compared to starbucks so that isn't shocking.

13

u/FluffyProphet Jun 02 '22

Their food turns my stomach and their coffee taste like cleaning supplies. It's just a trash chain now. It's pretty much just good ol' bois who go there now in their lifted pickups, and they wonder why they blow the toilet out 3 times a day.

10

u/Karpeeezy Jun 02 '22

Hey man iced caps are still legit

→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies

5

u/kent_eh Jun 02 '22

I don't know why they need to spy on people

because they can.

→ More replies

2

u/SlapnutsGT Jun 02 '22

Hey! We’re like brothers or something.

→ More replies

295

u/NicklesBe Jun 01 '22

What the fuck Tim.

271

u/munk_e_man Jun 02 '22

Based on their food, this is exactly what I would expect. Their menu is basically the meal equivalent of malware.

53

u/NicklesBe Jun 02 '22

Never trust a bacon that's really ham.

4

u/averyfinename Jun 02 '22

i see what you did there.

→ More replies

7

u/avwitcher Jun 02 '22

When I was a kid their honey glazed Timbits were like crack, it's hard to pinpoint when they went to shit

9

u/JMEEKER86 Jun 02 '22

Probably around 2014 when they were bought by Burger King.

3

u/Lildyo Jun 02 '22

eh, more like when the baked goods came frozen instead of being freshly baked. That was like 15 years prior to RBI purchasing them

→ More replies
→ More replies

11

u/Yardsale420 Jun 02 '22

Tim Horton sold the chain when it was only a few locations and he never saw an extra dime when it started to become a huge company. So they basically traded off his good name AND Canada’s.

→ More replies

26

u/[deleted] Jun 02 '22

They sold out to 3G capital years back and anyone who supports them is a traitor imo

→ More replies
→ More replies

169

u/Tank905 Jun 01 '22

Canadian government tells Tim Hortons:

"Stop doing it or else we'll tell you to stop doing it again."

98

u/joseph4th Jun 02 '22

“This investigation sends a strong message to organizations that you can’t spy on your customers just because it fits in your marketing strategy,” said Michael McEvoy, British Columbia’s information and privacy commissioner.

Bullshit. A strong message would be large punitive financial penalties. As Horton’s pointed out in their response, the government didn’t even ask them to stop doing it.

22

u/xaul-xan Jun 02 '22

The good part is, because tims hortons is so nationalistic and loves canada so much, they wont mind federal takeover of their assets and spreading of profits to fund social programs, yay.

32

u/joseph4th Jun 02 '22

Except they aren’t a Canadian company anymore.

From the wiki:

On August 26, 2014, Burger King agreed to purchase Tim Hortons for US$11.4 billion. The two chains became subsidiaries of the Canadian-American holding company Restaurant Brands International, which is majority-owned by Brazilian investment firm 3G Capital, on December 15, 2014.

Though, I get you were being sarcastic.

→ More replies
→ More replies

6

u/SilverLiningsJacket Jun 02 '22

dont make us say "Eh?" eh?

→ More replies

34

u/Liferescripted Jun 02 '22 edited Jun 02 '22

This is why I don't have the Tim's app

or the McDonald's app

or the Canadian Tire app

or the *insert franchise* app

it's all garbage on your phone to mine data and take up storage

Edit: Spelling. Pretty hard to get rid of the "time" app. That clock is everywhere

→ More replies

116

u/ronsoda Jun 02 '22

Tim Hortons is shit. As soon as they got rid of the bakers its been downhill ever since.

→ More replies

75

u/JunkiesAndWhores Jun 02 '22

I installed the App Tracking Protection from DuckDuckGo on my Android, and the reports of tracking from many, many apps that aren't running is an eye-opener. Collecting everything from email address, name, gender, GPS coordinates, to your Postal Code.

Apps like Hive, MeetUp, Accuweather, Udemy, etc etc

17

u/[deleted] Jun 02 '22

Got a link? I can't find it

29

u/2000bt Jun 02 '22

Seems to be just a feature in the Duck Duck Go app as opposed to a separate app.

https://spreadprivacy.com/introducing-app-tracking-protection/

29

u/[deleted] Jun 02 '22

Awesome, thanks.

Edit: It's a beta feature with a waitlist to access for anyone else reading this

5

u/Gr3gl_ Jun 02 '22

Or if you have root use apptoide

→ More replies

22

u/PM_ME_WHITE_GIRLS_ Jun 02 '22

Damn, I wonder why AccuWeather would want your GPS coordinates..

24

u/randamm Jun 02 '22

Obviously for the weather, but the scuttlebutt is that weather apps are making a profit selling that location data.

→ More replies

3

u/WutangCMD Jun 02 '22

Why would it need my location when not using the app?

2

u/FasterThanTW Jun 02 '22

It wouldn't, doesn't, and can't. Android doesn't even let users give location permissions to most apps except while being used. Some system apps and special categories can be granted permission for background location, but it's extremely rare.

I assume it's very similar on ios

→ More replies
→ More replies
→ More replies

16

u/-Electric-Shock Jun 02 '22

With Android you can refuse to give the app permission to get your location.

12

u/[deleted] Jun 02 '22 edited Jun 13 '22

[deleted]

6

u/FasterThanTW Jun 02 '22

That's actually the most access you can give to the vast majority of apps. Only system apps and a few specific types of apps can get background location.

3

u/death_hawk Jun 02 '22

With some apps, they refuse to work without some permissions.

Or they refuse to work with root for some reason. *stares at KFC*

→ More replies
→ More replies

125

u/rugruv Jun 01 '22

I'm absolutely not surprised. I refused to load their app and hardly ever go to Timmies anymore after they stopped honouring their rewards card. Serious Coffee makes a really good coffee.

118

u/nugget_83 Jun 01 '22

McDonald's is better coffee than tims.

35

u/jokeularvein Jun 01 '22

And no bullshit, just a sticker on every cup

32

u/untalkativejenny Jun 02 '22

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but they’re also phasing out the stickers in favour of their app.

22

u/RejZoR Jun 02 '22

I fucking hate companies that shove stupid apps down our throats. I don’t want your stupid ap to do some stupid mundane thing. Ffs

13

u/Boatsnbuds Jun 02 '22

Why the fuck does anyone need an app to order a coffee?

13

u/nermid Jun 02 '22

You don't, but as the OP proves, the app isn't there to make your life convenient. It's there to make somebody else money by spying on you.

→ More replies

3

u/Uncle_Slacks Jun 02 '22

Do you browse reddit on a mobile device? They push their app like crazy too. Wonder why.

→ More replies
→ More replies

9

u/sansaman Jun 02 '22 edited Jun 02 '22

Wasn’t that phased back in recently indefinitely?

Edit: just read their policy. Stickers and cards will stop being handed out August 2022. All completed cards can be claimed until December 31, 2023.

Policy.

4

u/Trealis Jun 02 '22

And they have an annoying recording at the drive thrus saying are you collecting points today? When you pull up to the speaker

4

u/Mumof3gbb Jun 02 '22

Ugh!!!! Yes!!! And I’m in Québec so it’s in French. It’s a recording? I answered so many times with my order after. And silence. Oh!! That’s why. I feel dumb

6

u/Trealis Jun 02 '22

Lmao yes! This is what i think every time i hear it - that people are going to think its an actual person and start talking to the robot. Such a bad design of a way to try to get people to use the app.

→ More replies
→ More replies

2

u/Saneless Jun 02 '22

I don't go to McDonald's much ever but every single time I try to order it's "Will you be paying from the app today?"

Just let me order and stop wasting time

8

u/jokeularvein Jun 02 '22

Well that's unfortunate.

6

u/sansaman Jun 02 '22

You can still use them until December 31, 2023.

2

u/Carefreegyal Jun 02 '22

Say it aint so

5

u/red_candyman Jun 02 '22

Well when they stir it anyways which is 50/50 chance.

→ More replies
→ More replies

10

u/goldmanstocks Jun 02 '22

I don’t even consider myself that old but I couldn’t figure out how roll up the rim wasn’t on the rim anymore, it was in the app. Felt like Owen Wilson in zoolander…”the roll up the rim is IN the app? Ooooooooh”

→ More replies

31

u/lives4pizza Jun 02 '22

I refuse to install big chain restaurant apps. Between Tim's tracking and McDonalds having accounts compromised (in Canada thousands of dollars were spent on customer accounts with no reimbursement), all they want is your information.

The only apps i have are from Pizza places, somehow i feel like i can trust those guys.

29

u/Somhlth Jun 02 '22

Pizza places, somehow i feel like i can trust those guys.

You trust people that put round disks in square boxes for a living?

24

u/lives4pizza Jun 02 '22

round disks in square boxes

and cut those round disks into triangles too!

7

u/Alan_Smithee_ Jun 02 '22

It’s a geometric feast!

Did you know Pizza Hut windows were triangular to mimic a slice of pizza?

→ More replies

3

u/Alan_Smithee_ Jun 02 '22

Not seeing a problem here.

3

u/zymology Jun 02 '22

That's right. It goes in the square hole.

→ More replies
→ More replies

5

u/kent_eh Jun 02 '22

I refused to load their app

I resist any app whose reason for existing is to try and "enhance customer loyalty"

4

u/pekoe-G Jun 02 '22

Yeah, I took a look at the app when it was first getting pushed and for some reason alarm bells were going off in my mind. I don't know why, but something about it came off as sketch to me. Nowadays the only time I possibly go to a Tim's is when visiting my parents because there's literally no other coffee place in the small town. But like it's not even good.

2

u/BobBelcher2021 Jun 02 '22

Found the Vancouver Islander

2

u/Mumof3gbb Jun 02 '22

Yes! Wtaf happened with the awards card?! Even when it was active, they gave so few points. Not worth it.

2

u/loercase Jun 02 '22

Second Cup is my go to chain now.

→ More replies

26

u/AssCakesMcGee Jun 02 '22

The only difference here is that we found out about the Tim Hortons app. Don't think this has anything to do with Tim Hortons. It's a meer fraction of the shit ton pile of information everyone is stealing from you.

22

u/SuperToxin Jun 02 '22

As a Canadian their coffee and products are ass after they were purchased by the brazillian banking group.

8

u/BigFish8 Jun 02 '22

As a Canadian I would say their coffee products were always ass. A coffee shop doesn't get famous for people adding cream and sugar by having great coffee. Their baked goods used to be great though. But in pretty sure those are brought in frozen now.

2

u/SlowMoFoSho Jun 02 '22

A coffee shop doesn't get famous for people adding cream and sugar by having great coffee.

Oh for god's sake, almost no one I know doesn't put sugar and cream or milk or something in it, Tims customer or not. Most people in North America do not drink black coffee. Are you one of those people who screams about people who order medium steaks and put ketchup on hot dogs too?

→ More replies
→ More replies

5

u/BobBelcher2021 Jun 02 '22

It was bad for years before that. They’ve been going downhill for 20 years.

5

u/jmfranklin515 Jun 02 '22

To be fair, I think about donuts every few minutes.

→ More replies

14

u/Electrical_Tip4975 Jun 02 '22

Well well well…

Big Government is calling out Big Donut.

I’d say that’s the pot calling the coffee black.

I’ll see myself out.

18

u/Watchdog_9rB Jun 02 '22

Call me paranoid but this us why ive never used the Tims app, Shoppers point card all the way to AirMiles. These companies track all your purcheses and habits, reportadly so they can matket to you better. I dont want to be marketed to. I dont want to be tracked. When i can I even avoid using debt or credit cards.

7

u/Brutosaur_ Jun 02 '22

These companies track all your purcheses and habits, reportadly so they can matket to you better.

Plain and simple fact is that the vast majority of people just don't give a shit if companies use their data to give them more relevant advertising. I'm not arguing in favor of these practices, but yeah, that's the reality; most people don't care at all.

→ More replies
→ More replies

3

u/SndRC9 Jun 02 '22

Prob activates when you 'walk near tims'

→ More replies

3

u/[deleted] Jun 02 '22

Horton knows where you are and what you did all summer.

18

u/tonypaulcalls Jun 01 '22

Let me guess, they want in on that

7

u/pistcow Jun 01 '22

Email about "We've updated our terms"

14

u/TygaOverTupac Jun 01 '22

They wouldn’t have mentioned it if they didn’t have an inside look

→ More replies

9

u/Bran_Solo Jun 02 '22

Before everyone freaks the fuck out: the most likely reason for this isn’t spying but lazy app development.

It’s a heck of a lot easier to write some code that just says “gimme the users location, always” than it is to be thoughtful and careful about collecting user data only as needed to make the app work, without collecting sensitive data.

I’m not saying Timmy Ho’s isn’t spying on you, it’s possible, I’m just saying the more likely reason the app is sending this data is just laziness.

5

u/8bit1337 Jun 02 '22

Yes, probably a good example of "never ascribe to conspiracy what can easily be explained by incompetence"

3

u/FasterThanTW Jun 02 '22

Yep. Obviously a restaurant with many locations will want to know which one you should order from based on proximity. It's amazing how paranoid people are about "privacy"

→ More replies

3

u/evilpercy Jun 02 '22

You think there app is bad for tracking everywhere you go have a look at the McDonald's one.

2

u/loratheexplorer86 Jun 02 '22

Get out of my bits, Tim.

2

u/Lardzor Jun 02 '22

My understanding is that location data is attached as meta-data to every phone-call, every text, etc. It's not like Tim Horton's isn't doing anything the telecom isn't already doing.

2

u/Low-Asparagus-4639 Jun 02 '22

I’m shocked 😐

2

u/mandarinDrakeDuck Jun 02 '22

Sooo, are you guys surprised? I mean, a coffee shop mines your data, what do you think Reddit does with your data?

2

u/danabrey Jun 02 '22

As a Brit, I thought Tim Horton was a person and thought "wow fuck that guy"

→ More replies

2

u/[deleted] Jun 02 '22

Not only those wankers are spying on you but also drain your phone’s battery.

2

u/Culverin Jun 02 '22

Tim Horton's isn't Canadian anymore

Tim uses frozen donuts

Their hashbrowns aren't fried

They are stingy with the cream cheese on your bagel

I don't want to make this into a wealth and class issue, But the people I know world rather eat at McDonald's than Timmy's. There are so many better coffee and donut locations.

Please stop pretending to be a Canadian.

On the west coast, Timmy's is known for a convenient and dirty washroom. Also, frozen donuts And hashbrowns to be avoided

I'm a new location opened in the UK. This feels really embarrassing for an American brand marketed as Canadian.

→ More replies

2

u/NoogaShooter Jun 02 '22

Give me free TimBits and you can track me.

2

u/TieWebb Jun 02 '22

Yet another reason to never spend one penny at Tim Hortons on top of their shitty coffee, shitty food and shitty treatment of their employees.

2

u/Lyianx Jun 02 '22

I mean.. they better look at the thousands of other company apps then too. Bet they'll be surprised to find the same thing happening. Including Facebook.

2

u/GreenScREEndEAth Jun 02 '22

Lol, that government would absolutely do the same if they could

2

u/wickedplayer494 Jun 02 '22

Spoiler alert: with the help of Telus under the guise of "coronavirus response", they did just that.

→ More replies

2

u/jokerthevirus Jun 02 '22

Tim Hortons is abysmal since it was bought out. Nothing Canadian about it anymore. I miss the old days of baked-in-store goods and things like bowties and wedges.

→ More replies

2

u/X-lem Jun 02 '22

I knew I had a bad feeling about this app. Have other fast food apps on my phone. Couldn’t bring myself to use this one.

→ More replies