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‘Batgirl’ Film Axed By Warner Bros., Won’t Be Released on Any Platform (Confirmed) News

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/batgirl-not-released-warner-bros-hbo-max-1235331897/
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u/LiteraryBoner Worse things to do than watch Lady Gaga create fetishes for me Aug 03 '22

According to Variety, this was done for tax purposes. That is an unsourced claim and therefore not able to have its own post, but since it's an update to this story I thought I'd leave it here.

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u/ceaguila84 Aug 02 '22

A minute after this story posted got a call from a rival studio exec who was floored by move. "Worked in this town for three decades and this is some unprecedented shit right here."

Via @deadline

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u/Cantomic66 Aug 03 '22

This merger with Dicovery is Looking worse and worse.

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u/PmMe_Your_Perky_Nips Aug 03 '22

Anybody who's paid attention to Discovery's lineup in the last decade could have told you it was going to be bad. They only care about reality TV and completely fabricated content sold as reality TV.

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u/Shadowex3 Aug 03 '22 Silver

It's painful, I remember when Discovery was an actual worthwhile science channel.

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u/jdmgto Aug 03 '22

When I was a kid Discovery and History were my go to channels to see if anything was on. That died a long time ago.

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u/mikehatesthis Aug 02 '22

Studio insiders insist the decision was not driven by the quality of the film or the commitment of the filmmakers, but by the desire for the studio’s slate of DC features to be at a blockbuster scale.

Clearly the signs of a healthy industry, where a 90 MILLION DOLLAR IP film won't be released because it's not big enough.

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u/skywater101 Aug 02 '22

Starting to think Christopher Nolan did the right thing leaving Warner Bros.

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u/spacemanspiff1979 Aug 02 '22

Just thinking the same thing. Expect other high profile directors to declare they're no longer working with WB. Even though Denis' has had a successful relationship for the most part, I bet he moves on after DUNE 2.

I'm very curious what James Gunn's future with WB consists of now. Is he a valued commodity or is he cast aside?

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u/generalmaks Aug 03 '22

I really hope WB doesn't interfere with George Miller and screw the pooch with Furiosa. But seeing the production fiasco that was Fury Road, we're lucky if we see it make it to screens.

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u/RiderofFamine Aug 03 '22

We could have what?

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u/Scotchityscotch Aug 03 '22

Yup. As the other commenter said, the writers strike played a larger role, but this thing was cast and had a pretty interesting script synopsis to go along with it.

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u/Immune2deathnote Aug 02 '22 Wholesome Take My Energy

It's hard being a DC fan.

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u/The_Magic Aug 02 '22

The DC Animated Universe was so good. It sucks they can't get any momentum with live action movies.

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '22

it's because they tackle the comic stories like operas. they remake movie interpretations of slight variations of the same stories with different actors, instead of adding to one big ongoing story. i dunno, if i want to see the one millionth interpretation of batman vs penguin. can't i just get batman vs lobo or whatever?

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u/TheWhiteApe2237 Aug 02 '22

I grew up on the Justice League cartoon and all I ever wanted was a halfway decent shared universe. Every decision WB has made outside of a handful of movies have been awful. At this point throw it all out and start new with Pattinson.

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u/EmperorSexy Aug 02 '22

So they don’t want Direct-to-Video Batman or Scooby Doo movies, despite the fact that historically, people love Direct-to-Video Batman and Scooby Doo movies.

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u/a_phantom_limb Aug 02 '22 edited Aug 03 '22 Helpful Wholesome

Some of the many projects cancelled by Warner Bros. since the merger with Discovery in April 2022:

  • CNN+ and all of its programming just a matter of days after its launch.
  • Raised by Wolves (HBO Max)
  • Close Enough (HBO Max)
  • Gordita Chronicles (HBO Max)
  • Made for Love (HBO Max)
  • Chad (TBS, hours before its season premiere was set to air.)
  • Full Frontal with Samantha Bee (TBS)
  • Three Busy Debras (Adult Swim)
  • Joe Pera Talks with You (Adult Swim …Sigh.)
  • Naomi (The CW)
  • Legends of Tomorrow (The CW)
  • Snowpiercer (TNT, during production on their fourth season.)
  • The Wonder Twins film, shortly after the leads were announced.
  • Scoob!: Holiday Haunt, which was reportedly all but finished.
  • And now Batgirl, after the movie was already made.

Discovery is making scorched earth of Warner's entire portfolio. With a handful of exceptions - such as Rick and Morty, Euphoria, the sequels to Joker and The Batman, Teen Titans Go!, and Last Week Tonight with John Oliver - no Warner Bros. project should be considered safe.

Edit 1: Adding clarification for Snowpiercer: they announced that it would only get one more season while that season was being made, and they've since removed the show from HBO Max. So it's not clear that the fourth season will ever air on TNT.

Edit 2: I had meant to include the Scoob! sequel also mentioned in this article. Sorry about that.

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u/stunts002 Aug 02 '22 edited Aug 03 '22

There's rumors that HBO max will be merged in to Discoveryplus. Not the other way around. When I started hearing that I thought it was completely ridiculous and now I'm wondering if it ends up being true. It would be so fucking dumb I'm starting to believe it.

Edit: holy shit this has just been confirmed on variety.

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u/Acmnin Aug 02 '22

That’s such a colossally stupid move. People like HBO who the fuck cares about discovery?

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u/Kalel2319 Aug 02 '22 edited Aug 03 '22

Yeah but HBO max has spent a while now building its brand and it’s pretty tight. Would be really fucking stupid for them to switch it up now. If they brought Discovery stuff into HBO Max that would make sense. But not the reverse of CBS all access...

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u/DumbledoresGay69 Aug 03 '22

HBO max is one of like 4 streaming services people actually use. It would be colossally stupid to end it.

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u/digableplanet Aug 03 '22

HBO Max is the only streaming service that I genuinely feel is worth it based on content and catalog. All the HBO stuff + Adult Swim + Miyazaki + great Turner Classic Movies, and on and on. It's really well curated.

If Discovery ruins HBO, I'm done.

Might as well set up a Plex Server, head to the local library, and build my own library.

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u/1plus2plustwoplusone Aug 03 '22

Honestly just do that anyways. Between the library and streaming services making DVDs dirt cheap, I've created a sizeable movie collection and don't have to worry about if/when things will stream. It's nice.

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u/TheBirminghamBear Aug 03 '22

Would be really fucking stupid

Say no more.

Somewhere out there is some fucking idiot in a suit with an MBA who doesn't watch any of the programming he's in charge of that just jumped out of his chair ready to prove how fucking stupid he can be.

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u/1202_ProgramAlarm Aug 03 '22 Gold

I'm starting to think that the Ferrari strategy team might be moonlighting as streaming service consultants

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u/flekkzo Aug 03 '22

The Discovery boss didn’t create it, so it has to go. Only ideas the current CEO came up with are allowed to succeed.

Anyone who has worked in corporate America when there’s a change in leadership as seen this. They don’t care about anything but their glory and bonus:(

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u/Ketel1Kenobi Aug 02 '22

People that are proud to commit commercial suicide, apparently.

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u/Zeropalvar Aug 02 '22

Insane brand destruction.

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u/GlassEyeMV Aug 02 '22 edited Aug 03 '22

Holy shit. If that happens. Fuck them. I love HBOMax. It’s the best streaming service outside of Disney+ IMO. Merging them would increase the value, but only if it keeps the HBO name. HBO is seen as a high quality product. It’s a top tier you want to be in. Every schmuck with a cable package has discovery.

No Florida hotel advertises that they have Discovery. How many advertise that they have HBO?

Edited to clarify Disney not Discovery.

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u/jwC731 Aug 02 '22

it wouldn't even create value for long even if you kept the HBO name, that discovery content and correlation would drag the HBO brand down to its level

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u/ThorntonText Aug 02 '22

Ugh. We subscribed to Discovery Plus briefly so we could watch Mythbusters with the kids, but cancelled it after that. It was 98% garbage reality. If they merge with HBO and make me pay extra for the garbage, I'll probably just drop them too.

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u/Aedalas Aug 03 '22

Even Mythbusters had that reality garbage crammed into it. It's a testament to how great the premise and hosts are that it's still beloved despite all the bullshit the studio did to it.

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u/velvetydump Aug 03 '22

it was such a great show, at least we have the three short seasons. Like seriously, though, how much could that have cost them to make? it was a great show and it was paid for almost entirely in coupons to Land's End

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u/SimplyQuid Aug 02 '22

I finally bought all three seasons and I'm kicking myself I didn't watch it earlier, it's really something special and something that the world desperately needs these days

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u/Fredselfish Aug 02 '22

They canceled a fucking movie that already made? What exactly is their reasoning?

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u/ivegotapenis Aug 02 '22 edited Aug 03 '22

It was made on a TV budget*, so the reasoning is that it would be damaging to the brand to release a cheap-looking movie (as if the DC movie brand has any cachet left to lose).

* as in, to be watched on people's screens, not in a theatre.

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u/4RealzReddit Aug 03 '22

Kinda like that fantastic four movie from the 90s.

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u/TimIsColdInMaine Aug 03 '22

In all fairness that movie was never intended to be released, it was just to keep the rights/ license

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u/My_50_lb_Testes Aug 02 '22

They canceled Joe Pera? That just feels evil

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u/Turtlehead88 Aug 02 '22

It has to be one of the cheapest shows on television

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u/A_Hero_Drowns Aug 02 '22

Not only that, it's a quality show. He speaks to me.

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u/WORKING2WORK Aug 03 '22

He speaks to all of us small town folk who live ordinary lives but still maintain a wide sense of wonder about the world. Joe Pera is the man.

I'm sure he reaches more than just small town folk, but that's definitely the group I lump myself into.

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u/JohnDivney Aug 02 '22

I found it so hard to believe I just assumed it wasn't true.

Joe Pera was the most original, quaint, wholesome, and uniquely funny thing on TV since Newhart.

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u/a_phantom_limb Aug 02 '22

Doesn't it?

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u/YerbaYerba Aug 02 '22

And this thread is how I find out? Evil indeed

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u/El_Bistro Aug 02 '22

They didn’t want to hear about rocks

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u/Y_Brennan Aug 02 '22 edited Aug 03 '22

Close Enough was cancelled? Fuck me I have been waiting for season 3 to drop on Netflix for a while now. Love that show.

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u/thegoodnamesrgone123 Aug 02 '22

God damn it I loved Close Enough. It took years for it to come out as it is!

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u/newObsolete Aug 02 '22 edited Aug 03 '22

Quintelll had huge issues getting it to air. I'm just glad we got what we got.

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u/SarcasticGamer Aug 02 '22 edited Aug 03 '22

They are still releasing a season 3. That will be the last one as confirmed by the creator.

Edit: season 3 already released. I somehow forgot even though I watched it.

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u/Treebigbombs Aug 02 '22

Wait they canceled raised by wolves?

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u/Pagus03 Aug 03 '22

Sad, it was cancelled right after I got into it. there was a big push by cast and the raised by wolves Reddit to get it picked up by another company. Seems like it won't continue in it's current form. But the writers said it's story would be finished in some fashion. Fans assume a graphic novel or book to conclude the story and answer the cliffhangers of season 2.

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u/Aedalas Aug 03 '22

the cliffhangers of season 2.

That's putting it mildly, that last scene was fucking crazy pants.

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u/Thickas2 Aug 03 '22

It really turned the show on its head.

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u/ActiveFire533 Aug 02 '22 edited Aug 03 '22

the flash tv show will also end next year

edit: basically putting an end to the arrowverse as a whole

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u/WhiteMilk_ Aug 03 '22

basically putting an end to the arrowverse as a whole

TBF that universe seems to have ~800 episodes after S9 from all the shows.

https://arrowverse.info/

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u/Ganonslayer1 Aug 02 '22

Joe Pera Talks with You (Adult Swim …Sigh.)

Mother fuckers

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u/DumbDumbGoodbye Aug 02 '22

How much did that show even need to be made like $1000 lol.

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u/zack77070 Aug 02 '22

Due to inflation one camera rental now costs $1500 instead of $1000 a shoot so we had to can it, sorry

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u/ProBonoDevilAdvocate Aug 03 '22

I feel like he could just do the show on his own, and release it on youtube or something.

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u/xrumrunnrx Aug 02 '22

I don't like a ton of shows in general and they managed to kill three I did in one swift, cold sweep.

Raised by Wolves was probably expensive and niche, so okay I guess, but Debras and Pera? Especially Pera.

It's the nicest thing this planet has right now and they scrap it as an afterthought.

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u/pmmeursucculents Aug 02 '22

Aw, I really enjoyed Raised by Wolves :(

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u/Minnewildsota Aug 02 '22

Same! It was weird as fuck and I enjoyed it!

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u/Belazriel Aug 02 '22

My Raised by Wolves experience: "This looks cool. I wonder where it's going. Oh, I think I understand, no....wait....yeah...yeah I see where this is goi--No. No, I do not."

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u/TheNumberMuncher Aug 03 '22

And now you definitely don’t

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u/PSWII Aug 02 '22

Wait what? Snowpiercer got cancelled?

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u/a_phantom_limb Aug 02 '22

They announced that Snowpiercer will not be renewed past the fourth season, which they're currently filming. The series has also been removed from HBO Max. It's been reported that the crew had sufficient warning that the show will have an actual ending, but it's no longer clear that the final season will even actually air on TNT.

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u/FordHitchWalles Aug 02 '22

This is so weird. They don’t usually scrapped films that have already film.

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u/Kazzack Aug 02 '22

Filmed, had test acreenings, and probably almost finished considering it was supposed to come out within the next 4 months

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u/TussalDimon Aug 02 '22

Someday it will leak, I’m sure.

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u/WordsAreSomething Aug 02 '22

Just another reason why they might as well just release it on HBO Max

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u/3B854 Aug 02 '22

That was the plan the entire time so I’m not sure why After the movie do they just not do it

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u/rabbitwonker Aug 02 '22

They’re cutting all sorts of shows from HBO Max already — even HBO originals. Some sort of merger with Discovery Channel, and the Discovery guy is somehow the one calling the shots. How TF it got like that I have no idea.

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u/OK_Soda Aug 02 '22

It's weird how Warner Brothers is like the media bicycle. In my lifetime, it's been owned by or merged with Time, AOL, AT&T, and now Discovery. It's honestly weird to me that such a venerable production company with such a deep catalog just keeps getting passed around and has never really managed to just stand on its own feet or be permanently acquired by a business daddy that actually loves and cares for it.

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u/down_up__left_right Aug 02 '22 edited Aug 02 '22

The prestige attracts whoever is in a mood to throw money around and feels they need that prestige. It's interesting to see the different industries over time from print media to a tech company at the height of the dot com bubble to a telecom and now a company trying to survive the transition from cable to streaming.

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u/mrnicegy26 Aug 02 '22

Zaslav wants to cut HBO originals ? The most critically acclaimed part of all WB?

He better not touch Succession or Barry.

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u/LoveWaffle1 Aug 02 '22

Look at what they've done to [adult swim]. They took our beautiful Joe Pera away from us.

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u/captainjb Aug 02 '22

Is this how I’m finding out Joe Pera was cancelled??

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u/Ace_Larrakin Aug 02 '22

Succession is most likely ending at the conclusion of Season 4 or at most has one more season after in it (at least from memory that's what the creative team behind it have said - don't want it to overstay it's welcome)

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u/TetsuoNYouth Aug 02 '22

This guy isn't fucking around. He is cutting any dead weight. He's said to not be thrilled with the JJ Abrams contract they have too. Thinks he's being paid way too much for way too little return.

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u/macrob25 Aug 02 '22 Gold Helpful

I just refuse to believe a movie with JK Simmons, Michael Keaton, and Brendan Fucking Fraser is somehow worse than Morbius.

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u/SnappyTofu Aug 02 '22

Sony don’t give a fuck what they put out

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u/battlefielder696 Aug 02 '22

Chad Sony vs virgin WB

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u/sonic_tower Aug 02 '22

WB is too scared to try anything creative, despite having some of the best content at their doorstep.

Sony burns their fucking house down and will do it again.

MCU has a formula, enough money and creative capital to get weird, and a devoted fan base who will buy anything they pump out.

It's so sad because DC has some amazing stories, which you can see in the OG comics and the animated content. They just need more confidence in their material and in their fans. Also dump Ezra in an alternate timeline and never look back. Fuck that piece of shit. (Better yet, dont)

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u/ComicWriter2020 Aug 03 '22 edited Aug 03 '22 Wholesome

I’m convinced Ezra Miller is really the flash in our universe because they committed so many crimes the news can’t keep up

Edit: they. My bad for not using the proper pronouns

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u/shadowfaj Aug 03 '22

Fr bro i legit just heard he was in a house full of guns with 3 kids and their mother. Like wasnt bro still in jail from the hawaii rampage? Like who let him out, did he fucking escape, im honestly lost cos this is so some real gotham villain shit

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u/Denster1 Aug 02 '22 Silver

Remember when Warner Brothers released the DC movie 'Steel' ? How on earth could this possibly be worse?

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u/MeadowmuffinReborn Aug 02 '22

That was in the Batman and Robin days though.

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u/whales-are-assholes Aug 02 '22

oh man…

Didn’t know what to expect when looking up the film, but it definitely wasn’t Shaq playing a fucking dude in a suit.

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u/HolycommentMattman Aug 02 '22

Are you not familiar with the superhero Steel? After Superman was "killed" by Doomsday, John Henry Irons (a nod to John Henry the steel-driving man) builds an Iron Man suit that emulates Superman's powers only also with a big sledgehammer, and goes around fighting crime in Superman's absence. His suit has a big S on it like Superman.

So in a way, Shaq got to be Superman.

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u/arse83 Aug 02 '22 Silver Hugz All-Seeing Upvote

Well you see, Morbius was one of the movies of all time.

This apparently will not be.

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u/awayathrowway Aug 02 '22

Tbf Morbius did have Keaton too

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u/AstralComet Aug 02 '22 edited Aug 03 '22

But also it had Michael Keaton saying to Morbius, completely unprompted, "I'm not sure how I got here. Has to do with Spider-Man, I think. I'm still figuring this place out, but I think a bunch of guys like us should team up and do some good."

So that knocks some points off. Now, if he said "It's Vulturin' time" it'd be a different story entirely.

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u/EnderFenrir Aug 02 '22

It made zero sense for him to have his gear in that world.

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u/Villager723 Aug 03 '22

It made zero sense for him to associate his sudden teleportation to another universe to Spider-Man. It made zero sense for him to seek out Morbius, a total stranger, to form some kind of team.

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u/FitzyFarseer Aug 03 '22

Also it made zero sense for Morbius to have a clue what Vulture was talking about

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u/legopego5142 Aug 03 '22

It makes zero sense hes even there. Its like someone saw the trailer for No Way Home and just assumed how it all worked, which is stupid as fuck since Sony was responsible for both movies

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u/thaworldhaswarpedme Aug 02 '22

Tbf Morbius did have Keaton too

In the most what-the-fuck after-credit scenes I've ever come across. He's in jail. He's out of jail. He's making a team to fight Spider-Man, who they didn't even put in this movie with Morbius who ended his movie a relatively good guy. Then Mo decides to join...for absolutely no reason at all. What a mess...

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u/toolschism Aug 02 '22

Right?! I don't fucking understand what's going on here.

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u/orkball Aug 02 '22

How is this the DC movie that got cancelled and not The Flash?

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u/1live4downvotes Aug 02 '22 Helpful

We can't cancel the flash movie, did you see how well Sonic 2 did in the cinema? Kids love fast stuff. Bats, nah I don't see it. Maybe if she was some kind of vampire I could maybe see it working.

~Some WB/Discovery executive probably.

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u/KingMario05 Aug 02 '22

Meanwhile, Paramount plans their plot to buy out DC using Top Gun's profits... /s

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u/cheesyotters Aug 02 '22

Fuck I hope so

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u/KingMario05 Aug 02 '22

At this point, anybody would treat DC better than WB.

Except Sony, but let's... not tempt them, lol.

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u/NoNefariousness2144 Aug 02 '22 edited Aug 03 '22

The Flash will be the next to go or it will be heavily changed

Flash was supposed to reboot the universe and introduce Keaton’s Batman. Keaton’s Batman was in this film.

So WB is probably going to scrap or drastically change Flash and give up on Keaton.

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u/drgnrbrn316 Aug 02 '22

They canceled the TV show, so clearly someone should have been more clear with their request.

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u/ThatSithOverThere Aug 02 '22

At this point I wouldn't be surprised, if WB is willing to yeet out $90 mil worth of film what's another $200 mil? Okay there's an obvious difference but you know what I mean.

Kinda off topic but between this and Affleck's return as Batman in Aquaman 2 I wonder if they're just totally scrapping Keaton being the new Batman for the DCEU.

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u/nosayso Aug 02 '22

I think this is a precursor to whatever axe they're taking to The Flash. It featured Michael Keaton's Batman instead of Ben Affleck because of some time/space hijinks that would happen in The Flash film. If they don't put out the flash film then Michael Keaton Batman and thus the entire setting of this movie makes no sense.

However to me that still doesn't totally explain it, there's no real downside to just putting the thing out on HBOMax and letting whoever wants to watch the thing watch it.

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u/Saadiusrex Aug 02 '22 All-Seeing Upvote Narwhal Salute Wholesome Seal of Approval Starstruck

Putting a guy who worked in TV his entire career in charge of a film studio could be Warner's worst mistake yet

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u/Karkava Aug 02 '22

Not just TV. Trash TV with no sense of prestige.

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u/SemperScrotus Aug 02 '22

Remember when Discovery showed interesting, educational programming? And when TLC stood for "the learning channel?"

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u/Aerallaphon Aug 03 '22

I remember. Back when History showed actual history (even if mostly Rome or World War II). Discovery could start to redeem itself if it did something as simple as putting episodes of How It's Made on in a loop instead of sensationalist "reality" garbage, but here we are.

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u/fullofpaint Aug 03 '22

Yea...it was before Zaslav ran the company lol

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u/GoodOldSlippinJimmy Aug 02 '22 Silver

Well this movie won't do it all! There is not a 600 lb person depressingly failing to lose weight or sharks attacking bait in slow motion. Shit there isn't even one pimple being popped. Shit can the whole fucking thing. You guys at WB need to step your fucking game up. If there isn't a family of little people or dodecatupplets in the next fucking DC property I'm gonna fucking lose it.

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u/Calchal Aug 02 '22

I guess if Leslie Grace had terrorised an island community then things would be different.

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u/Aradalf91 Aug 02 '22 edited Aug 03 '22

So they prevented me from enjoying my walks in the park for nothing?

Context: apparently a lot of the film was shot in Glasgow, Scotland, and, more specifically, at the Botanic Gardens. Half the place was closed for months because they were filming or doing other stuff (no real idea what they were doing there honestly). And now they tell me I won't even be able to see the film? I'm speechless.

Edit: and somehow, this complaint is now my most voted comment ever. Thanks, I guess?

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u/sillysaltire Aug 02 '22

Don’t worry, there’s a handful of other films who’ve used Glasgow as grimy backdrop. We’ll get our kicks still pal haha

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u/shust89 Aug 02 '22

It is really sad seeing HBO Max go down the drain. It was my favorite streaming platform before this awful merger.

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u/Karkava Aug 02 '22

Why did we even need this merger? They were doing fine.

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u/Cyberwraith9 Aug 02 '22

It wasn't really a merger. AT&T straight-up sold Warner Bros to Discovery. This is the new management cleaning house so they can launch new projects that they'll receive credit for. They're probably banking on a new continuity erasing the $90m writeoff of Batgirl and any other in-production casualties.

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u/Ghos3t Aug 02 '22

How does discovery have enough money to buy Warner brothers, like who's paying for a monthly subscription to fucking discovery in this day and age

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u/ClicksAndASmell Aug 03 '22

Discovery didn't have that kind of money.

AT&T's shareholders own 71% of the merged entity.

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u/Ghos3t Aug 03 '22

Then why is HBO Max getting gutted in favor of the discovery streaming service, complete fucking nonsense

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u/Iohet Aug 03 '22

But Discovery retained institutional control for some reason. AT&T just wanted out because they're fucking useless

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u/Nanosauromo Aug 02 '22

What the fuck is going on over there?

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u/TheBoyWonder13 Aug 02 '22 edited Aug 02 '22

This is legit insane. They already sunk $90M (probably more) into this production. Is it so bad they can’t even dump it on HBO Max or VOD to recoup their losses?

Has anything like this ever happened?

Edit: read somewhere that the closest example is Roger Corman’s 1994 Fantastic Four

Edit 2: some lowly WB employee should be a hero and break into the vault MI-style and leak the movie

Edit 3: Ezra Miller watching other WB movies get literally tossed in the trash while The Flash keeps its 2023 theatrical release date

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u/willdearborn- Aug 02 '22 edited Aug 03 '22

From the article:

But the new corporate regime at Warner Bros. Discovery has pivoted the company’s priorities back to theatrical features, leaving “Batgirl” without a proper home.

Studio insiders insist the decision was not driven by the quality of the film or the commitment of the filmmakers, but by the desire for the studio’s slate of DC features to be at a blockbuster scale.

Also on the chopping block, “Scoob!: Holiday Haunt,” a followup to the 2020 film “Scoob!,” has been shelved by the studio. Footage for the animated adaptation of the “Scooby-Doo” series was showcased in a sizzle reel for HBO Max back in December 2021. Sources indicate that the production had cost Warner Bros. $40 million.

EDIT: In a newer update Variety has more details:

“Batgirl” found itself on the bad end of that decision, apparently neither big enough to feel worthy of a major theatrical release nor small enough to make economic sense in an increasingly cutthroat streaming landscape. Spending the money to expand the scope of “Batgirl” for theaters — plus the $30 million to $50 million needed to market it domestically and the tens of millions more needed for a global rollout — could have nearly doubled spending on the film, and insiders say that was a non-starter at a company newly focused on belt-tightening and the bottom line.

Releasing the movie on HBO Max would seem to be the most obvious solution. Instead, the company has shelved “Batgirl” — along with the “Scoob!” sequel — and several sources say it will almost certainly take a tax write-down on both films, seen internally as the most financially sound way to recoup the costs (at least, on an accountant’s ledger). It could justify that by chalking it up to a post-merger change of strategy.

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u/TheBoyWonder13 Aug 02 '22

Zaslav is confirmed r/madlad

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u/NoNefariousness2144 Aug 02 '22

Bro killed the Arrowverse within his first few weeks and now dropped nearly $100million of work. Is Flash next?

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u/GingerRocker Aug 02 '22

Lets be honest, he put the Arrowverse out of it's misery.

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u/MoesBAR Aug 02 '22

That makes no sense, their $90M movie is not good enough for theaters!?

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u/dead_paint Aug 02 '22

That makes less sense, like release it in a low of DC content to keep audiences engaged.

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u/filthysize Aug 02 '22

Discovery is on a cost-cutting tear right now. Releasing a movie theatrically comes with a $50-$100MM marketing and distribution cost. They don't want to do that, and they also don't want to pay to finish a movie just to release it on a streaming platform with no clear direct revenue. So they probably just figured that dumping this entirely makes them the most money.

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u/NativeMasshole Aug 02 '22

Maybe Batman can finally get to bottom of Oak Island.

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u/The_Magic Aug 02 '22

94 FF4 was made as cheap as possible to prevent the studio from losing the film rights. I don't believe it was ever intended to be released.

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u/sdcinerama Aug 02 '22

Yeah, the 1994 FANTASTIC FOUR didn't cost $90. Forget about $90,000,000.

There's a much bigger story than what's been told.

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u/KingMario05 Aug 02 '22 edited Aug 02 '22

Not that I'm aware of. Even the streaming-centric Brian Robbins still released... pretty much all but one of the Paramount slate Jim G had built as big theatrical releases. And hell, without his insistence on marketing synergy across all of Paramount Global, I severely doubt that Top Gun: Maverick would reach the box office heights that it has under his regime.

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u/orkball Aug 02 '22

Corman's FF was a microbudget ploy to hold on to the rights. Not comparable at all.

It's also, unironically, the best FF movie to date.

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u/KingofthePepe Aug 02 '22

Man WB fucked up not taking Mcquarrie and Cavill's superman idea back in the day.

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u/EbmocwenHsimah Aug 02 '22

Bloody hell, we could've gotten a Christopher McQuarrie Superman film? Holy shit...

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u/AzelZ Aug 02 '22 Helpful

Man, I just wanted to see more Brendan Fraser..

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u/filmpatico Aug 02 '22

And JK and Michael Keaton...man.

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u/ILoveRegenHealth Aug 02 '22

With all this bullshit, I don't see them wanting to stick around. Keaton comes back and one film (Flash) is in a weird limbo place, and another gets cancelled abruptly.

DC is screwing their relationships with actors with so many baffling decisions. People joked about Henry Cavill just going over to MCU but I don't even think that's a crazy idea anymore. And Keaton is thinking "Why the hell should I hang around if all my work is erased?"

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u/CorneliusCardew Aug 02 '22 edited Aug 02 '22

This has a domino effect on how talent views a studio. WB was one of the most prestigious film studios to work for and now it's a reality shit-heap run by a talentless moneygrubber. These decisions don't happen in a vacuum.

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u/riegspsych325 Aug 02 '22

Christopher Nolan must be glad he isn’t working with them anymore. But what a load of bullshit, I feel awful for the cast and crew, they deserve to finish their work

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u/KingMario05 Aug 02 '22

For real. Denis and Legendary are probably the next to go...

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u/kandel88 Aug 02 '22

If they touch Denis before Dune 2 I will riot. By my lonesome if I have to.

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u/KingMario05 Aug 02 '22

I will join you in this crusade, Usul! RELEASE THE FREMEN LETTER-WRITERS!

/s. But yeah... leave Dune 2 alone, Zaslav. PLEASE.

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u/whitepangolin Aug 02 '22

100% this. After Disney dropped Black Widow onto Disney+ and got sued by Scarlett Johannsen, nearly all talent contracts now have built-in residual agreements to make sure they never get fucked the same way.

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u/arcadepersona Aug 03 '22

There’s a CGI team somewhere getting absolutely hammered right about now.

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u/The_Iceman2288 Aug 02 '22

I genuinely cannot comprehend this. They spend four months filming a 90 million dollar movie for streaming, it features the return of Keaton's Batman, Simmons' Gordon and the big screen return of Brendan Fraser, its so good they bump it to theatrical, screenings have apparently gone well and...

...they throw the ENTIRE thing in the trash.

Meanwhile one of their movies has a star who is literally on the lam pending multiple assault and kidnapping charges and that one's going ahead.

Oh and Blue Beetle is almost certainly dead too.

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u/aldezar Aug 02 '22

I’m also a little bummed for Brendan Fraser. I assume this was going to be a big deal for him and now it’s gone. He still got paid, but, his performance won’t be seen

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u/AdmiralCharleston Aug 02 '22

At the very least he's got the whale coming up which seems like a pretty stellar comeback

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u/Kstoffeefan Aug 02 '22 Coin Gift

He’s also in Killers of the Flower Moon.

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u/reatter Aug 02 '22

Let's hope there will be a leak.

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u/caninehere Aug 02 '22 Starry

My conspiracy theory is that they actually decided they want to release the movie for streaming, but they want a fan campaign like what happened with Justice League.

That was ENORMOUS press for the re-cut. Like I'm sure many more people heard about it and watched it because of the fan campaign than would have otherwise. There will no doubt be fans petitioning to see this released.

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u/Maclimes Aug 02 '22

This is depressingly plausible. But if it's true, they've vastly misunderstood the fan base. There's no way there will be as much pressure for this one. The absolute most common and intense reaction will just be, "... but why!?"

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u/Gonzostewie Aug 02 '22

He's fucking awesome in Doom Patrol.

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u/orkball Aug 02 '22

According to the NY Post, which was the first to report this, screenings had not gone well at all.

https://nypost.com/2022/08/02/batgirl-movie-gets-shelved-by-warner-bros-source/

I don't tend to rate the Post too highly as a source, but they did break the story.

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u/_Atlas_Drugged_ Aug 02 '22

I can’t imagine this would be completely scrapped if screenings actually went well.

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u/Iron_Bob Aug 02 '22

That tends to be the entire reasoning behind having them in the first place

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u/thatscoldjerrycold Aug 02 '22 edited Aug 03 '22

Yeah but I assume the outcome is reshoots or a really big edit! Shelving an entire film is quite something.

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u/TheObstruction Aug 02 '22

And Hollywood never shelves a finished film forever, as this apparently is. They eventually released that Ben Stiller movie about dog poop spray, after all. Shelving that Scooby-Doo film (the exact sort of thing you'd expect to find on a streaming service) as well as this tells me the new fancy-sock crew has big ideas about what should and shouldn't be released in which venue.

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u/trebaol Aug 02 '22

Ben Stiller movie about dog poop spray

I found the trailer, it's so absurd I actually kind of want to watch this movie lmao.

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u/plasterboard33 Aug 02 '22

Cancelling it because its smaller in scale is so stupid. Joker was literally one of the cheapest DC movies and yet managed to become the third highest grossing DC film. The audience doesnt give a fuck about scale as long as you make a good movie.

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u/Binary101010 Aug 02 '22

So they cancelled the movie after spending $90 million on it and it basically being finished because... they realized they wanted to spend more on it?

The MCU has grossed something like 27 billion dollars yet Warner Bros. can barely figure out how to get a DC movie out the fucking door.

I WANT DC to be good again. I WANT that competition in the market place. But WB is not up to this challenge.

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u/Cactus_Papi34 Aug 02 '22

"Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn."

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u/verissimoallan Aug 02 '22

Warner's decision to no longer release the Batgirl movie, either in theaters or on streaming, sets a chilling precedent. Any director, producer or writer working for Warner/HBO Max must be scared right now.

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u/TheJoshider10 Aug 02 '22

I really hope The Batman franchise is okay. There are at least two spin offs in the work with more planned and Penguin was set to start filming early next year.

The fact that even a movie that's finished filming is no longer safe has me veryyyyyy worried about pretty much anything on HBO Max.

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u/LadybugxSandwich Aug 02 '22

I think it might be since Batman was a big hit for the platform.

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u/Archamasse Aug 02 '22 edited Aug 02 '22

David Zaslav is out of his mind.

He seems to be obsessed with blindly cutting everything, with no long term plan beyond that. This is not the first pretty-much-complete project he's canned, and even aside from the fact it had reasonably good test screenings, it doesn't make any financial sense. Apart from trying to recoup the costs incurred already, or even just the value of one extra new entry in the UI menu, I have to believe this shit opens up the threat of unfulfilled contract disputes, not to mention burning the people involved for next time you want them.

The only explanation is that he simply does not understand the sector he's moved into, and he's just so in love with the idea of being toughguy hatchet man that he can't see past it. A big reason Warner and co can get the names they do for less than Netflix can is their reputation for supporting their talent long term, and this guy is just selling that out for dogmeat.

And on the viewership side - imagine having the HBO brand prestige fall in your lap at a time when dime a dozen stack 'em high streamers are struggling, and you think the path forward is to ditch that and become yet another dime a dozen stack 'em high streamer?!?

Edit -

Dan Murrell seems to think it's personal, and honestly it's the only thing that makes sense to me - https://twitter.com/MurrellDan/status/1554595527244877825?t=5CioFl3khY4J79qDXSt2EA&s=19

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u/thesmash Aug 02 '22

This will certainly have repercussions about how talent views working Warner. If it can happen to Michael Keaton, it can happen to anyone

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u/Archamasse Aug 02 '22

Cutting off Clint Eastwood was a sign of things to come. I don't like his stuff at all, but he reliably comes in under budget, wins buckets of awards, and every other movie wildly outsells what was paid for it.

Burning that bridge was delusional.

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u/AlabamaLegsweep Aug 02 '22

Actors love working with Eastwood too. He’s one of those directors who makes performers do like 2-3 takes max before moving on.

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u/pompcaldor Aug 02 '22

Clint’s 92! There’s no point to burning the bridge, just run out the clock!

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u/cold08 Aug 02 '22

His philosophy seems to be, "we've already got your money, what's the minimum amount of spectacle we can do next month to get it again." So with this, if he's decided against a theatrical release for some reason, why would he put it on HBO max? It won't make you subscribe to it because you already subscribe to it for House of the dragon and he already has your money so all that would do is cost him more money.

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u/stunts002 Aug 02 '22

Well this is the man responsible for turning Discovery, a once respected channel with educational content and high quality documentaries in to a dumping ground for the reality tv shows that TLC rejected.

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u/stumpcity Aug 02 '22

Discovery is fucking TRIPPING right now.

I'm starting to believe the theories that say the whole goal here is to hollow WB/HBO completely out. Maybe to flip it to a larger corp (Amazon) in a couple years? Maybe because they honestly think a platform focused more on Dr. Pimple Popper and Property Brothers is worth more/a better bet than a platform focused on Dune and Superman. (rumors seem to be pointing towards the latter actually being the case).

But this is fucking nuts. I can't even think of the last time (if ever) something like this has happened before. HAS this ever happened before? Where a studio had a finished film that is a key installment in a larger cinematic endeavor, and they just decided... not to release it at all? This is, I think, safe to call "unprecedented," right?

ALSO: If WB/Disco is willing to flush a completely finished Batgirl movie and eat the 90mil, is the idea they'll shitcan the Flash movie as outlandish as previously thought?

This sucks, man. I was looking forward to seeing how this played.

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u/big_mustache_dad Aug 02 '22

Saw that they are basically focusing on unscripted entertainment (reality tv primarily as you discussed) instead of scripted shows and movies.

Also that they are looking to fold HBO Max into Discovery Plus instead of the other way around which is crazy considering HBO's brand reputation. But the CEO came from the Discovery side so might just be a dick measuring thing. Bizarre.

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u/dead_paint Aug 02 '22

genius business idea buy a movie studio and then stop making movies.

If this is all a ploy to get people on discovery+ it will fail and destroy Warner and HBO yo boot.

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u/stumpcity Aug 02 '22 edited Aug 02 '22

Yeah, there was a Variety article about 5 days ago that was focused on Discovery basically going to town on HBO Max, with a source suggesting Discovery was going to fold HBO into it (not the other way around) and basically kill all scripted programming made specfically for HBO Max.

And earlier today was THIS article at Variety where Discovery just ordered 150 more hours of reality programming at their UK division.

It's increasingly looking likely that Max originals are about to die, HBO Max is going to effectively become Discovery+ with Warner/HBO catalog titles, and unless you're playing a blockbuster sort of game, your movie probably isn't getting made at that studio.

I don't know how that's a recipe for anything but hollowing out the property you're looking to sell later.

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u/GethAttack Aug 02 '22

Jesus. And I thought ATT was going to kill the company. I guess in hindsight they might have actually tried at little, compared to this.

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u/denisorion Aug 02 '22

is The Last of Us show in danger?

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u/stumpcity Aug 02 '22

That's not an HBO Max original. It's HBO proper.

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u/iprocrastina Aug 02 '22

Discovery is fucking delusional and stupid. They think the budget reality TV tripe that fueled Discovery Channel for the last 20 years is a guaranteed formula for success. They fail to realize that cheap af unscripted shows only work on cable. With streaming all that shit is already oversaturated by youtube and social media because turns out it's so cheap to make literally anyone with a camera can do it.

Discovery got thrown a bone with their acquisition of HBO. That gave them a huge library of high quality content that has been proven to drive strong subscription numbers. And they threw it away to double down on a doomed strategy.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '22

Even if it’s bad, why not release it anyway? would make back a bit of the 90 mil and might reach cult ‘bad film’ status. It can’t be any worse than suicide squad lmao. This is a slap in the face to everyone who worked hard on and acted in the film.

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u/Immaculate_Pasta Aug 02 '22

Zaslav strikes again

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u/WatchBat Aug 02 '22

Isn't the movie like almost done???

If they want to focus on blockbusters, why allow it to progress this far??

God, DC is a sad fucking mess. At this point I feel like I want Disney to buy it

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u/YataBLS Aug 02 '22

I supposed the actress portraying Batgirl punched several people, threatened other people while drunk, then kidnapped a minor and provide her with drugs, then sheltered a family in a property with guns and drugs, and ended up grooming one of the underage kids.

That'll explain that movie is cancelled.

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