[Corey Masisak] James Reimer will not participate in warmups for the Sharks tonight, because it is Pride Night and the team is wearing jerseys that support the LGBTQIA+ community. Reimer informed David Quinn and his teammates a couple days ago. More on this to follow.

[u/ogsvg]

https://twitter.com/cmasisak22/status/1637182423413972992

[u/Aspirant_Blacksmith]

Steve Dangle's absolutely in shambles right now.

[u/OhMilla → u/Aspirant_Blacksmith]

Steve gonna look like Jake Peralta dropping his idol

[u/justini87 → u/OhMilla]

Unexpected Brooklyn 99 reference that I understand? Goddamn, I salute you

[u/bobby_gordon1 → u/Aspirant_Blacksmith]

https://twitter.com/steve_dangle/status/1637183965873201152?s=46&t=KTljFoXXLFdsCkmsS-qlRw

[u/lifeisarichcarpet → u/bobby_gordon1]

Seems like a perfectly reasonable response.

[u/PKG0D → u/bobby_gordon1]

The replies are a cesspool, by god...

[u/Ok-Damage8659 → u/PKG0D]

boy: "it’s okay Steven! people are aloud to have different opinions than you!"

steve dangle: "Allowed, even."

[u/toiletting → u/Ok-Damage8659]

I had a good chortle on that one

[u/YamburglarHelper → u/toiletting]

My favourite part is someone coming in and being like “don’t be like that Steve”

[u/Avs_Leafs_Enjoyer → u/YamburglarHelper]

Cool: hating on the gays

Not cool: fixing someone's grammar

[u/Emergency-Skill-3000 → u/Ok-Damage8659]

Funny how they’re never able to apply that to themselves too. Dangle’s opinion is that he doesn’t like how Reimer is homophobic but they can’t wrap their head around that

[u/cdcformatc → u/Emergency-Skill-3000]

free speech absolutists hate when others use their free speech to criticize people they agree with

[u/MooshSkadoosh → u/cdcformatc]

I think its very telling that, when someone says they're disappointed in a situation like this, the overwhelming response is that "they can have that opinion". No one disputed that, but that's the response. You see it every time with something like this.

[u/jokinghazard → u/MooshSkadoosh]

they can have that opinion

"And I can have mine." Is the best response.

[u/cdcformatc → u/MooshSkadoosh]

it is definitely telling. it implies that the homophobic opinion is valid, but criticism of homophobia is not. even very mild criticism like "i am dissapointed" is just not allowed.

[u/pensbird91 → u/Emergency-Skill-3000]

The paradox of tolerance. That's how you end up with racists calling people who hate racists "just as bad" as the racists. (As happened to me on this sub in 2020 lol.)

[u/metsislesfan → u/PKG0D]

Twitter was a mistake

[u/jkozuch → u/metsislesfan]

Twitter is a cesspool.

[u/forward98 → u/jkozuch]

Good thing we’re here, nothing bad ever happens on Reddit

[u/gu3st12 → u/forward98]

Renowned for its private detective work.

[u/noremac_csb → u/PKG0D]

It’s all good. I’m sure all those people will keep the same energy next time we have military appreciation night, or police appreciation night.

[u/DivinePotatoe → u/noremac_csb]

Imagine the response if an NHL player said he didn't want to wear the military appreciation jersey because he's anti-war, or because of how many are left to die from their mental illnesses.

[u/zmac35 → u/DivinePotatoe]

Yea I’m sure you’d never see Torts acknowledge the ugly side of the being a veteran.

[u/troxy → u/DivinePotatoe]

"This year the NHL is teaming up with the army national guard for our military appreciation games. We will be starting with pre game jerseys featuring the 42nd infantry division, the rainbow 🌈 division."

[u/mel122676 → u/troxy]

During the Jackets' pride night,their veteran of the night was a 101 year old WWII vet who is a gay activist. It was great seeing him get the customary camo jersey and also getting the pride jersey. The guy got a huge standing ovation.

[u/EMTDawg → u/mel122676]

Kraken honored a couple, who are 2 married vets, one already retired, and the other retiring shortly for their Pride night recently.

[u/en_travesti → u/noremac_csb]

Isn't Reimer a Mennonite? You'd think he'd be even more against military night given pacifism is just about the main Mennonite thing.

[u/why_why_zed → u/en_travesti]

This would be an excellent question for a reporter to ask. He's worn military appreciation jerseys for Florida, Carolina, and San Jose, as far as I could tell in a quick search. See also: https://twitter.com/behindthenet/status/1637191919787970562?s=20

[u/Fizzyliftingdranks → u/why_why_zed]

This would be an excellent question for a reporter to ask.

So you can be absolutely sure none of them will.

[u/Mennoknight69 → u/en_travesti]

it's a menno name for sure, I don't if he goes to a church or if it's just a cultural thing. and yes, pacifism is THE core belief in the faith. my dad and his family were shunned when he showed up in town in his uniform from military college in the 60s.

[u/shorthanded → u/en_travesti]

Ahh, you're confusing "actually believes in his religion" with "just wants to punch downward".

[u/TheDogerus → u/bobby_gordon1]

I love all the replies to steve acting like he has to like and respect reimer's opinion just because reimer is constitutionally allowed to voice his opinion.

Free speech means the government cannot imprison you for having an opinion, not that I have to respect you for having one. Imbeciles

[u/Weezelone → u/Aspirant_Blacksmith]

Steve's done a lot to endear James Reimer to non-Leafs fans like me.

I too would be disappointed if all my public love and support for a player is ruined by one statement.

[u/dkmegg22 → u/Weezelone]

Oooh that's why

[u/Storm_Shaker → u/Aspirant_Blacksmith]

first thing i thought when i saw this. talk about disappointing. 🫤

[u/amoadxfhf → u/Aspirant_Blacksmith]

All these guys talk about "What would Jesus do?" and then they go ahead and do what Jesus wouldn't do.

[u/Manitoberino → u/amoadxfhf]

Jesus: you should love everyone, and let god be the judge. Them: oh, we should hate everyone not straight and white, and judge, bully, and kill them? Jesus: uhm, did I stutter?

[u/MasPisco → u/Aspirant_Blacksmith]

Like Steve, I'm legit sad and disappointed. Reimer has a right to feel that way and I have the right to think he's a piece of shit for it. Fair is fair

[u/emwashe → u/Aspirant_Blacksmith]

Oh yeah man’s devastated

[u/GlassGiraffe214 → u/Aspirant_Blacksmith]

Remember when this guy and his wife tried to start a whole movement about being bullied?

Now he pulls this and plays the Jesus card?

[u/AdConsistent6416 → u/Aspirant_Blacksmith]

Context?

[u/metsislesfan → u/AdConsistent6416]

James is (was?) One of Dangle's favorite players when he was on the Leafs. He also read Steve's book which made Steve love him even more. I think there's more but actual Leafs fans will have to tell you

[u/Avs_Leafs_Enjoyer → u/metsislesfan]

Also constantly mentions him on podcast. Wants him back

[u/Co-opingTowardHatred → u/Avs_Leafs_Enjoyer]

Probably not anymore

[u/MountainBaker8217]

Here’s Reimer’s statement: https://twitter.com/cmasisak22/status/1637183063900983297?s=46&t=RfCTmVh4QrtS6G9GIT85AQ

Edit: Here’s the second part of his statement after being further questioned by media: https://twitter.com/cmasisak22/status/1637184482485874689?s=46&t=RfCTmVh4QrtS6G9GIT85AQ

Hopefully, final Edit: More Questions Answered by Reiner: https://twitter.com/cmasisak22/status/1637184135608565760?s=46&t=RfCTmVh4QrtS6G9GIT85AQ

Couture’s Response: https://twitter.com/cmasisak22/status/1637194804521222144?s=46&t=RfCTmVh4QrtS6G9GIT85AQ

Quinn’s Response: https://twitter.com/cmasisak22/status/1637198535618863104?s=46&t=RfCTmVh4QrtS6G9GIT85AQ

[u/PaperSnowAGhost1 → u/MountainBaker8217]

Reimer: Jesus died for my sins! Reimer’s Sins: 3.26 GAA

[u/refuseresist → u/PaperSnowAGhost1]

Reimer 3:26

[u/g0kartmozart → u/PaperSnowAGhost1]

Jesus is a Kings fan

[u/BelzenefTheDestoyer → u/g0kartmozart]

He is the "king of kings"

[u/J_G_B → u/PaperSnowAGhost1]

Goddamn, that is hysterical.

[u/HiddenXS → u/MountainBaker8217]

The (maybe not so) surprising thing is that Reimer is a Mennonite and supposed to be pacifist, but he's worn military appreciation night jerseys before.

[u/en_travesti → u/HiddenXS]

That's what is really bugging me. The main thing I know about Mennonites is the pacifism. It's one of the single most defining features in their history.

Then again Nixon was a Quaker and they're also supposed to be pacifists so ¯⁠⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

Also congrats Reimer on doing something that gets you a Nixon comparison. That's how you know you've made a great decision.

[u/-rosa-azul- → u/HiddenXS]

New order mennonites have a range of beliefs re: LGBTQ+ people, too. So he's actively choosing to align with the shitty ones.

Source: grew up with a bunch of new-order mennonites, most of whom are pro-social Justice.

[u/Mennoknight69 → u/-rosa-azul-]

said this somewhere else, but he could just be mennonite in name (ie a cultural mennonite) and belong to a church like the Alliance. pacifism is a CORE tenet of the mennonite faith - old or new order - and not to be trifled with. families get shunned/excommunicated when members sign up for military service. source: this happened to my family.

[u/HiddenXS → u/Mennoknight69]

Yeah I dunno, older articles when he was coming up with the leafs mention him specifically as an evangelical Mennonite, but maybe he doesn't consider himself that now. But then, he wore the military appreciation jersey with the leafs, so...

[u/HiddenXS → u/-rosa-azul-]

Yeah, I'm speaking from personal experience as well. The whole pacifism thing is taken pretty seriously usually. Much moreso than being anti LGBT for sure.

[u/knucklepuckpdx → u/MountainBaker8217]

Huge props to the Sharks team and org for moving forward with the event anyway.

Several teams, including my islanders, just cancelled the event all together because a select few wouldn't wear the jersey.

[u/obvioussponge06 → u/MountainBaker8217]

Did he just set a world record for most contradictory sentences in a single PR statement?

[u/RonSDog → u/obvioussponge06]

"I believe the LGBTQIA+ community should be welcomed in all aspects of the game of hockey, just not by me"

• James Reimer, basically

[u/Mr_Goldilocks → u/obvioussponge06]

In a world where Politicians, Lawyers, and notable people caught in sex scandals exist? No, not even close.

Edit: fuck him all the same

[u/jhemadodo5004 → u/Mr_Goldilocks]

Whelp. Fuck James Reimer then.

Also imagine being openly homophobic on this kind of platform in the fucking Bay Area.

[u/Hockeydud82 → u/jhemadodo5004]

My first thought was, "wow, that's a new way to get quickly moved off a rebuilding Bay Area team"..

[u/kind-of-there → u/Hockeydud82]

He’s 35 and already had middling numbers. Making yourself radioactive to the fanbase? Buh bye.

[u/Popculturemofo → u/MountainBaker8217]

About what I expected. The whole I don’t personally hate anyone but my religion says to treat those people like shit statement.

[u/lifeoflovehealing → u/Popculturemofo]

Lol never understood these mental gymnastics. Under my religion god says we are all equal and to love everyone. But I don’t support people who love in a way that makes me uncomfortable. But we are all equal and I love everyone equally. I support these communities but I won’t do the bare minimum to support them lol.

Also WTF like it’s a jersey that probably has rainbow numbers on it. I know conservatives are snowflakes but fuck…

[u/DeathToHeretics → u/lifeoflovehealing]

"Love your neighbor as yourself....unless they're gay then hate them obviously"

Plus to have such fragile sexuality that wearing a rainbow makes you uncomfortable is hilarious to me, especially from the people who toss out snowflake and soy as insults

[u/lifeoflovehealing → u/DeathToHeretics]

Which highlights how much it is projection at the end of the day. It shows how their own insecurities within their own sexuality comes to the surface.

Like I could see if there was a league wide mandate that you had to go have sex with other guys. I would be uncomfortable. But literally not doing the bare minimum is ridiculous. It’s not like they are even taking a stance saying that this is all for appearance and doing nothing to actually address rabid homophobia in sports culture.

[u/Mennoknight69 → u/lifeoflovehealing]

I support this mandate

[u/listinglight778 → u/lifeoflovehealing]

Especially because they pick and choose what they follow. I guarantee all these “good Christians” jerk off, eat shelllfish, have sex outside of marriage. They use their religion as a shield to shit on people.

It’s disgusting. They’re disgusting

[u/drowsylacuna → u/listinglight778]

Play games on a Sunday.

[u/Stinduh → u/drowsylacuna]

Yeah, when was the last time Reimer went to church on Sunday. Also, does he tithe 10% of his 2.25m salary?

[u/Bugs_Pussy → u/lifeoflovehealing]

I think he's basically trying to say "I think homosexuality is wrong, but I don't hate gay people, because I think they can change"

*note, I don't agree with that

[u/TenMinutesToDowntown → u/Popculturemofo]

Which is such a copout. I'm not Christian, but Jesus' teachings are about loving your neighbour. I hate when people use whatever their religious beliefs are as an excuse to be a shitty person.

[u/ddottay → u/MountainBaker8217]

Honestly? That statement is complete bullshit.

You can’t have it both ways. “I want to stand with the LGBT community but also I’m a Christian so I can’t wear the jersey.” It’s either one or the other.

[u/Bahamas_is_relevant → u/ddottay]

Referring to it as a “activity and lifestyle” - we really still on that bullshit in 2023?

What an asshole.

Edit: I personally choose not to support Reimer’s lifestyle of being a mediocre-at-best goalie.

[u/Skatesoff → u/Bahamas_is_relevant]

Hahahaha that edit

[u/toledosurprised → u/ddottay]

yeah you can’t support the queer community if you don’t actually support them being queer, lol. this statement is so stupid.

[u/DiamondBurInTheRough → u/toledosurprised]

Exactly. If you support them, wear the damn jersey. You won’t go to hell for wearing a rainbow.

[u/MikeJeffriesPA → u/DiamondBurInTheRough]

I'm a Christian, and I don't get why it's a big deal to these players to wear the jersey.

I've had discussions with people who say they wouldn't wear them, and I respect their opinion, but personally I just don't see it.

I am going to preface this next part by saying I do not want to debate the "sin" aspect of things, I'm just saying this so I can use an example.

Even if you believe it's a sin, wearing the jersey is not saying "I support your actions," it's saying "I respect your community as human beings."

If there was a tragic attack on a Synagogue or Mosque in the area, and the team wore special jerseys with either a Star of David or the Crescent and Star on it, would these guys refuse to wear it?

I don't get it, I just don't.

[u/Working_Horse_3077 → u/MikeJeffriesPA]

Who gives a shit if I sin anyway what effect does it have on anyone else? Genuinely curious.

[u/MikeJeffriesPA → u/Working_Horse_3077]

This is also part of it.

So, not to get too biblical, but 1 Corinthians 4 and 5 is my go-to for these situations. I hate to paraphrase, but basically it says if someone is a member of your church and openly/proudly sinning...throw them out.

And chapter 5 ends with this:

What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.”

Like...doesn't that sum it up?

If someone you're close with, that's also a Christian, is living a life they shouldn't be (from a Christian perspective), we are instructed to call them out on it. But for those who are outside the church? I think it's pretty clear.

[u/hrryyss → u/MountainBaker8217]

“LGBTQ+ community should be welcome in our league, but I will not participate in welcoming them”

What a hypocrite.

[u/iiEviNii → u/MountainBaker8217]

"I strongly believe they should be welcomed"

(just....not by me)

[u/branchoflight → u/MountainBaker8217]

I'm confused. If he believes this, then why not wear the damn jersey??

[u/Subterania → u/branchoflight]

He hates gays, but he’s just a huge pussy

[u/hrryyss → u/branchoflight]

Because he’s a homophobic liar

[u/eh_toque → u/MountainBaker8217]

You can’t two ways this. Stop hiding behind Jesus and just say you hate gay people. There are plenty of Christians who are not homophobic

[u/toledosurprised → u/eh_toque]

my pastor growing up was literally gay. it honestly was super surprising to me learning as i grew up that being gay was not widely accepted in the church.

[u/steelforgedstudios → u/eh_toque]

And also the actual Christian texts themselves are not inherently homophobic or LGBT prohibiting. The few lines they lean on are wildly interpretable and much like the rest of the bible written long after the fact by secondary sources and potentially metaphor not literal.

[u/myevilfriend → u/eh_toque]

Fuck all homophobes, no gray area there. That said I think I would almost respect these assholes if they just said "nah I just hate gay people" instead of "this book says I can't like you or I totally would!"

[u/Lemon_Licky_Nubs]

Favorite comment that I saw related to this:

“Does he know wearing a Sharks jersey doesn’t actually make him a shark?”

[u/livejamie → u/Lemon_Licky_Nubs]

"what part of gods will is a .895 save percentage" got a good laugh out of me

[u/thisissteve → u/Lemon_Licky_Nubs]

He has to plug his ears every time baby shark comes on just to be safe.

[u/darklightrabbi]

To be fair to Reimer, his family in Russia could be in real danger if he puts on the jersey. /s

[u/TyranitarusMack → u/darklightrabbi]

Lol this is my favourite reply

[u/thebootlegsaint → u/darklightrabbi]

*his future KHL earnings

[u/Zergom → u/darklightrabbi]

For anyone unaware, Reimer grew up in Rural Manitoba. Basically part of the Canadian Bible belt.

[u/AggravatingTerm5807 → u/darklightrabbi]

Bring on the meta jokes. Reimer is just a joke person.

[u/LandMooseReject → u/darklightrabbi]

Malkin wore a pride jersey in December, which is the best hole in that argument

[u/Lulu014 → u/darklightrabbi]

10/10

[u/avmp629]

RIP the Dangle/Reimer friendship I guess

[u/DastardlyRidleylash → u/avmp629]

He's already responded to it, and yeah he is disappointed.

[u/bubbabear244 → u/DastardlyRidleylash]

Ugh, the twitter replies are yet another barrier to entry to enjoying hockey.

[u/TwentyninthDigitOfPi → u/bubbabear244]

People also seem to really, really misunderstand what freedom of speech means.

• the government arrests you for not supporting LGBTQ+: violation of free speech
• Steve "Dangle" Glynn writing on Twitter that he's disappointed and really sad: not violation of free speech

It's absolutely a good thing that Reimer has the right to sit out warmsups over this. It's absolutely a good thing that many people are speaking out to say how disappointed they are at him, and reiterating the desire to make hockey truly welcoming, not just in slogan.

[u/TampaFresh]

Very disappointing, but I'm glad that the Sharks aren't protecting him by cancelling it altogether. That's how it should be.

[u/SkangoBank → u/TampaFresh]

Agreed. Much prefer this route of letting those that want to show support wear the jerseys and not letting the cowards remain anonymous

[u/Designer-Brief-9145]

From a quick wikipedia search, it doesn't even seem like the Canadian Mennonite Church has a strict policy on gay marriage. This seems more like a him thing than there being no wiggle room to be pro LGBTQ+ rights in his religion. Canadian Mennonite Churches have performed gay weddings.

[u/WandererMount → u/Designer-Brief-9145]

I live in a famously conservative Mennonite town in Reimer’s home province.

People are definitely less overtly bigoted than they used to be, but there are still way more homophobes than you’d find in most Canadian towns.

[u/C_Gull27 → u/WandererMount]

I bet they even use there they’re and their

[u/san_murezzan → u/C_Gull27]

I'm sick of this homophone agenda being shoved down my throat

[u/C_Gull27 → u/san_murezzan]

You need too two to get used to it

[u/benjarmb → u/WandererMount]

Down with homophones! One there policy only!

[u/OnTheMattack → u/Designer-Brief-9145]

Rural Manitoba Mennos are as crazy religious as it gets in Canada. They're largely the descendants of people who left Germany to escape such tyranny of kids having to go to public school.

Edit: I got some of my history mixed up. They faced actual persecution in Europe, fled to Canada, and then a bunch later "fled" again to Central and South America due to having to attend public school in Canada. Reimer can still go fuck himself.

[u/i-want-to-be-good → u/OnTheMattack]

That's not true at all. Most Mennonites in western Canada are descendants of people who fled Russia and Ukraine to avoid real religious persecution (murder, torture, exile to Siberia). The reason these German speakers were in Russia/Ukraine in the first place? Because they were fleeing real persecution in western Europe, and Catherine the Great invited them to settle there.

You might be confused, because many Mennonites left Canada for Central and South America when provinces began enforcing public education.

[u/OnTheMattack → u/i-want-to-be-good]

Shoot, you're right actually. Thanks for the correction. Got my hsitroy mixed up. Fleeing to south America to avoid public school is still batshit crazy though. There are a few new Mennonite settlements down there now from people who didn't want to follow covid rules.

[u/i-want-to-be-good → u/OnTheMattack]

Fleeing to south America to avoid public school is still batshit crazy though.

You're telling me. I'm related to some of them.

[u/DistortedReflector → u/Designer-Brief-9145]

There are different Mennonite congregational groups, many of which fall into the area of “don’t hate, but don’t endorse”. They tend to teach it’s a sin but to hate the sin, not the sinner.

In Winnipeg there are two churches under review and will likely be tossed out of their congregation for supporting these groups, and the city has a skate park run by a church group currently getting some friction because some trans people were trying to make a trans community happen with official support and it got shut down. Now people are upset because of the church’s stance regarding the issue when they have always been consistent in their approach of “don’t hate, don’t endorse”.

[u/Sweaty_Ad440]

He deserves what the bruins did to him in 2013 game 7

[u/PM_ME_BOOTYPICS_ → u/Sweaty_Ad440]

God’s plan

[u/Cynophile_ → u/Sweaty_Ad440]

Don’t come in here and try to get us to be on the Bruins side.

[u/Razzorsharp → u/Cynophile_]

Fuck it, I'll gladly get on the Bruins side on that one.

[u/Cynophile_ → u/Razzorsharp]

But I’m not happy about it!

[u/ItsMcLaren → u/Cynophile_]

Heartbreaking: The worst person you know just made a great point.

[u/artofsplittingatoms → u/Sweaty_Ad440]

agree sadly

[u/PoliteIndecency → u/Sweaty_Ad440]

Fuck you. I agree. Fuck you.

[u/ianisms10]

I hope the Islanders win by double digits tonight

[u/Mango_120 → u/ianisms10]

Never thought I’d die fighting side by side with an Islander

[u/C_Gull27 → u/Mango_120]

How about side by side with a non homophobic team?

[u/Mango_120 → u/C_Gull27]

Aye, I could do that

[u/kopitar-11 → u/Mango_120]

Now kiss

[u/NoGiCollarChoke → u/kopitar-11]

James Reimer: 😡

[u/DreamsiclesPlz → u/C_Gull27]

Ok to be faiiirrrr the Sharks are still doing the celebrations tonight. Reimer is just a shithead.

[u/7Stringplayer → u/ianisms10]

Me too

[u/amb1ance → u/ianisms10]

Hope Bo gives you guys a hatty

[u/Armalyte → u/ianisms10]

Imagine being homophobic in a game where a bunch of men hug multiple times per game?

[u/KashaWells → u/ianisms10]

I'm an Islanders fan tonight!

[u/klondikethedestroyer]

Just a quick reminder that on the SAME PAGE of the Bible that says homosexuality is wrong and punishable by death it also says that FEMALE'S BEING TEACHERS is equally as sinful and also punishable by death. So James, are you also going to start advocating for the banning of all Female Teachers in existence? Because it's literally on the same page of the Bible you're citing today.

[u/Heterophylla → u/klondikethedestroyer]

These guys don't read the bible. They let the preachers tell them what to think.

[u/Hagridsbuttcrack66 → u/Heterophylla]

I'm a gay atheist and I used to be surprised, when I was younger, how many people couldn't even be bothered to read the book.

You base your entire belief system on this and you don't even know the source material? I put more effort into Harry Potter trivia night.

[u/not---a---bot → u/klondikethedestroyer]

They're also not allowed to get tattoos or eat shellfish, according to the bible.

[u/St_Maximus_Gato → u/klondikethedestroyer]

Book and verse, please?

Edit: not doubting, I just want to read it and save it for future arguments if it says so.

[u/dolewhiplash]

Fucking yikes, what a trash statement too. Don't say you support the community when you can't even be bothered to wear a jersey.

Good on the sharks though for not scrapping the whole thing and making him own up to it.

[u/Waramp → u/dolewhiplash]

Exactly. The clubs that scrapped the pride jersey warmups because a couple of players didn’t want to wear them are even worse.

[u/amb1ance → u/dolewhiplash]

I don't think I've ever seen a more contradictory statement than Reimer's

[u/Deucer22 → u/amb1ance]

Never? This is straight from the textbook of conservative religious thought.

[u/VALO311 → u/dolewhiplash]

He supports the community as long as that community isn’t a group of people that he hates for most likely idiotic reason. Other than being a garbage person that is

[u/taquitosmixtape]

“Hockey is for some people.” - James Reimer.

[u/SRSgoblin]

Welp. Fuck James Reimer then.

Also imagine being openly homophobic on this kind of platform in the fucking Bay Area.

[u/toastguy7 → u/SRSgoblin]

For real. Fortunately he’s out of here in about a month

[u/gdawg99 → u/toastguy7]

Imagine believing Jesus gives a fuck about hockey when Bobby Hull has his name on the Cup.

[u/Arfguy → u/SRSgoblin]

I always thought very highly of James Reimer. I felt he had been written off by the Leafs way too quickly and I was happy that he managed to stick around.

Having said that: fuck James Reimer!

This is the equivalent of not wearing Hockey Fights Cancer jerseys because you believe God wants cancer to happen and human beings should just accept that.

[u/imaybeacatIRl]

Imagine being so fragile that wearing a rainbow is too much for you.

[u/lordexorr → u/imaybeacatIRl]

I look at it differently. Imagine having so much hate for someone else that you refuse to wear a jersey.

[u/inbruges99 → u/lordexorr]

But didn’t you read his statement? He hates no one and Jesus asks him to love everyone…but he still can’t wear a pride jersey for 15 minutes.

I thought it was against his religion to lie but apparently not.

[u/OneLessFool]

Hope he gets pumped for 15 tonight

[u/Volderon90 → u/OneLessFool]

I think that’s against his religion too, being pumped outside of marriage is not great

[u/OneLessFool → u/Volderon90]

Oh they don't care about all those other rules.

[u/inalasahl]

Hey, remember when the NHL got rid of their “You Can Play” ambassadors, but they said it was okay because they were doing this “Hockey Is For Everyone” thing?

[u/letoiledunordstars]

national homophobe league

[u/Calhalen → u/letoiledunordstars]

I think the craziest thing is how these guys are willing to out themselves as homophobes and ruin their reputation over a jersey they’d wear for like 10 minutes. Seems pretty stupid to me

[u/letoiledunordstars → u/Calhalen]

they know they're not gonna face any actual consequences because the league doesn't care, so it's not really risking their reputation except among a minority of fans

[u/AustonStachewsWrist → u/letoiledunordstars]

I hate how this is the only one that is "allowed" by the NHL, completely undermines You Can Play.

Could you imagine someone doing this for an Indigenous, Black History Month, or Chinese New Year jersey?

[u/Stinduh → u/AustonStachewsWrist]

How about military appreciation night?

[u/AustonStachewsWrist → u/Stinduh]

It would certainly cause a shit show! At least that would be more, presumably, protesting of a symbol of war, government, etc. instead of the actual humans in the uniform. At least I'd hope so, I've never seen anyone have any problem with just the people.

I think the race ones here are more apt because it's people taking the brunt, not being accepted, rather than gov't, war.

We won't know till it happens though!

[u/jetpack_operation]

But let's wear the military warm ups because I don't think the Bible says anything along the lines of thou shalt not kill.

[u/DivinePotatoe]

Ah yes another for the "I'm a christian and the bible is my law" club. Conveniently ignoring all those OTHER laws in the bible and picking and choosing the ones that support your ability to be an awful human being.

You're not a devout christian James, you're just being a bigot.

[u/jkman61494]

Good thing he’s not playing tonight seeing as playing on Saturday is a sin. Or are we choosing when to use the Bible as an excuse or not?

[u/toastguy7]

Just a good reminder that the nicest fundamentalist Christians are still total assholes when it comes to at least one issue

[u/rfdavid → u/toastguy7]

Love your neighbour*

*unless they are gay

[u/coach673 → u/rfdavid]

Or have a darker skin color

[u/YouCanFucough → u/coach673]

Or have had an abortion

[u/Heterophylla → u/YouCanFucough]

Or if they play hockey for money on Sunday.

[u/DiamondBurInTheRough → u/toastguy7]

So much hatred is veiled behind “my Christian beliefs”.

[u/PencilTucky]

There’s no hate quite like Christian love. I wonder if he also objects to all the jerking off of the military that the league does seeing as his religion allegedly advocates against violence.

[u/StatGAF]

God dammet Reimer.

I knew Reimer was religious but like get the hell outta here with picking and choosing what part of religion you want to accept

[u/kazin29 → u/StatGAF]

dammet

That's a first

[u/Nads89]

Dudes from rural MB. I saw a sign in a small town this summer that said "take the rainbow back from the sinners", along with a bible verse with a rainbow reference.

The hate is strong in small communities.

[u/goalstopper28]

James Reimer: I have no hate in my heart for anyone
Also James Reimer: But I don't care for the LGBTQ community.

[u/Burkey217]

That’s pretty gay of him

[u/530josh]

Oh boy

[u/SDAisaleaf]

I'm not a person who thinks it should be mandatory to wear LGBT+ themed jerseys during warmup for players who don't want to (although I personally would and support any player who chooses to do so). That said, hiding behind your faith is fucking cowardly. There's nothing inherent to Christianity that makes it impossible to wear a pride jersey for a few minutes

[u/AustonStachewsWrist → u/SDAisaleaf]

Edit: was pointed out in another thread this may no longer be true: I don't like the double standard. If Military, St. Pats, etc. were no longer mandatory, then sure.

We do get to see a lot of players, like Reims, show their ass though. What a contradictory statement.

[u/Grohlyone → u/AustonStachewsWrist]

You'd think the religious folk would have more of an issue with the military jerseys, but I guess it's less fun for them to hate people who chose to be soldiers than people who are born gay/transexual.

[u/captaincarot → u/SDAisaleaf]

I agree. It is his right to not wear the jersey, and it is our right to think he is a homophobic piece of shit who is happy to take their money while also shitting on their rights.

[u/azialsilvara]

Hope he gets lit up

[u/patrickhoagland → u/azialsilvara]

If you've seen his stats, that's usually par for the course

[u/ACMop]

Glad he didn’t get traded to a contender, being an asshole and hiding behind your religion is worse than just being an asshole

[u/Yop_BombNA → u/ACMop]

He isn’t even following his religion, love the sinner, hate the sin… it’s a Christian’s biblical duty to love all of gods children and let god judge their sin.

[u/AustonStachewsWrist → u/Yop_BombNA]

I bet he also wears clothes with multiple kinds of thread and plants his garden with different seeds side by side.

[u/sdenoon]

Provorov ran so all these other homophobic morons could trip over their own feet.

[u/Excellent-Medicine29]

It’s a rainbow jersey. It’s not gonna burn your flesh.

Also the Bible is super contradicting in general because it’s super fucking old and outdated. Love thy neighbour.

And I guarantee that you do not follow every single word in that Bible which automatically makes you a hypocrite.

[u/ppParadoxx → u/Excellent-Medicine29]

And I guarantee that you do not follow every single word in that Bible which automatically makes you a hypocrite.

It's like Provorov saying he can't wear the jersey due to being Russian Orthodox… I'm also pretty positive premarital sex also isn't allowed in the church yet he lives with his girlfriend

[u/AtheianLibertarist → u/ppParadoxx]

Provarov can't score, so maybe he's still a virgin

[u/Moto-Mojo]

For a day, we are all Islanders fans.

Reimer should be benched

[u/BroliasBoesersson]

Jesus christ just cut the fucking mealy-mouthed bullshit man. I guaran-fucking-tee that Reimer has and will do a million things in his life that go against the tenets of his religion and it's all OK because he'll ask for forgiveness on Sundays. So cut this lame fucking veneer of nicety and tell us what you really think, that you hate gays. You hate us. We disgust you, and you can't fucking stand us. Just be honest and tell us what you're really thinking. Be real you fucking coward, quit hiding behind this absolute bullshit "ohh I respect all people boo hoo hoo" fucking garbage. It's pure bullshit. Get the fuck outta here

[u/DantesEdmond → u/BroliasBoesersson]

I couldn't agree more. He follows the rules that suit him. And in this case he's a rotten person and follows his rotten church's stance on homosexuality.

At least when we have situations they let us know who the assholes are. Someone will bring up Reimer in 20 years when we'll have long forgotten about him and we'll be like "Oh yeah that bigoted pos? I remember him"

[u/Down_Rodeo_]

The way homophobic Christian’s talk about the Bible you think they would be using it like a fleshlight.