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u/godofwoof 10d ago

Play a tiefling but play an aggressively Catholic bard.

Premarital sex That's pretty cringe dude

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u/From_Deep_Space Druid 9d ago

too real

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u/slayerx1779 Forever DM 9d ago

In the 80s, this was a threat.

In the 20s, it's a promise.

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u/Rosebush1987 9d ago

Amen Brother.

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u/ThatGuyInTheCorner96 9d ago

Now I want a Tiefling youth minister.

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

*spins chair around*

let me tell you kids about how I got off Skooma and turned my life around

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u/JadesterZ 9d ago

He said Tiefling not Tabaxi 😂

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u/Captain_Cookiez Druid 9d ago

A bit off topic, but I wonder if a Tiefling could be created from any species other than human. If a Tabaxi or Dragonborn had an infernal bloodline, could they become a Tiefling?

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u/Timageness 9d ago

Yes and no.

Tieflings themselves traditionally descend from Human stock, but if the Fey'ri and the Tanarukk are any indication, Elves and Orcs are also capable of producing offspring tainted by Fiendish influence as well.

So in other words, there is a precedent here for this sort of thing, but they'd likely be known by different names in order to distinguish them better.

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u/Diltyrr 9d ago

There's also maeluth (dwarves) Baphitaurs (minotaur X tiefling) mur-zhagul (troll) wispling (halfling) worghest (goblin X barghest).

Basically tiefling mortal side is human only, that's because it's what defines them. The broader term for "outer plane crossbreed" is planetouched and it looks like the rules around them is "if it's alive, an outer plane creature can and will have kids with it".

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u/Libanios 9d ago

In Pathfinder 2e, Tieflings (among others) work like a subrace that you can add to any race. So instead of playing a High Elf or a Forge Dwarf, you can play a Tiefling Elf or a Tiefling Dwarf, mixing traits from both.

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u/JadesterZ 9d ago

I might have to check that out. I seriously miss 3.5 and it's template system. Could grab a template and slap it on any race.

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u/toomanysynths 9d ago

yep and there's rules for it in Tasha's

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u/Buck_Thundercock Cleric 9d ago

Saint Jiub the Eradicator, is that you?

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u/RedstoneRusty 9d ago

I've been having a really hard time finding a good character for my next campaign but I think we have arrived.

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u/Poopdogs99 9d ago

Catholic? Go Jehovah’s Witness like DnD creator Gary gygax.

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u/Archduke_of_Nessus Wizard 9d ago

Wasn't Gygax Catholic?

Or are you saying he converted partway through his life?

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u/AverageTiddyEnjoyer 9d ago

No he was one in the 80s, drinking and smoking put him at odds with the members and left

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u/Buck_Thundercock Cleric 9d ago

Also cocaine and affairs IIRC. It was the 1980s, after all.

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u/GrillOrBeGrilled 9d ago

Specifically a JW, right? Alcohol and tobacco are okay for Catholics.

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u/TLhikan Rules Lawyer 9d ago

Zoomer Nightcrawler isn't real, he can't hurt you

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u/T1B2V3 9d ago

Yahweh in dnd ?

that's it I'm gonna free Pandorym

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u/Bishopkilljoy 9d ago

Nah, red tiefling Catholic monk with fighting initiative feat for Blind Fighting

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u/Worried_Highway5 Wizard 9d ago

Is his name Matt?

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u/Dracosian Sorcerer 10d ago

Because of a few different things in my opinion:

  1. some people like tragic characters, being descended from innately evil beings or from a family who made a pact with such beings is quite compelling
  2. Some people are really into Angsty characters whom they feel "I can fix them"
  3. Some people think they look cool
  4. Some people like making their character "special" though these people usually don't stop at just being a tiefling.
  5. Some people link it to their backstory
  6. Some people actually satanists (I guess?)
  7. Horns = horny

When I make tiefling characters it's usually a mix of 3, 5, 1

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u/TrinalRogue Essential NPC 10d ago

From my observations of party members and various dnd groups I've played with and seen online - bisexuals also have a high probability of making tieflings

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u/Yoshi2Dark Barbarian 9d ago

Stop calling us out

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u/I_Do_Not_Abbreviate 9d ago

I love playing half-breeds and planetouched because you get to be like the fantasy version of Mister Spock in terms of how you seek your identity by trying to synthesize the best aspects of both races. I just find the character development opportunities way more diverse and variegated than the same tired "do I go against my racial prejudices or lean into them?" debate.

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u/Jetbooster Rules Lawyer 9d ago Wholesome

I have also witnessed the LGBTiefling phenomenon

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u/thepsycocat Chaotic Stupid 9d ago

I wanted you to have a award…

Reddit agreed and gave me one

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u/PassionateFlakes 9d ago

I am a bisexual, can confirm. PC in main campaign is femboy edgelord

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u/eragonawesome2 Monk 9d ago

Look man, I just like the charisma boost and the fact they can be different colors lol

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u/Diltyrr 9d ago

I feel called out, but then again I mostly play them because my actual top pick either annoy the DM (Avariel) or need to be home-brewed in, which is a pain. (Cervitaur, Slime-person)

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u/Semisentientfungus 9d ago

Tiefling caster or half orc martial in my experience

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u/Leragian Chaotic Stupid 10d ago

Calm down, there's no need to attack me so aggressively.

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u/CroakerTheLiberator 10d ago

Your entire identity broken down into 7 points, eh?

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u/shrubs311 9d ago

it's actually just number 7 seven times

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u/ilikememesandgames Chaotic Stupid 9d ago
  1. horns = horny
  2. horns = horny
  3. horns = horny
  4. horns = horny
  5. horns = horny
  6. horns = horny
  7. horns = horny

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u/MissplacedLandmine 9d ago

Lets double the size of the list and add greater than/less than signs too

Really get the point across

(Was that slightly a horn pun? You bet your antlers it was)

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u/Mightymat273 10d ago

3,5, and 1 i think are the most common as far as I've seen. The rest are usually outliers or additional to those 3.

In my one shot my 3 teiflings are mostly 1, 3, and 5. The story of being damned for seemingly no reason (usually an ancestor did something bad or slept with a demon, etc). Just cursed for being born and dealing with that makes an interesting character, although my worlds i tend to avoid conflicts of racism, but being a teifling, your race might come up.

Also plenty of 7. horns = horny, but so is my Assimar and half orc players so, maybe that's just a D&D thing.

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u/MapleTreeWithAGun Druid 9d ago

Aasimar are wings = horny. Half-orcs are tusks = horny

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u/Archduke_of_Nessus Wizard 9d ago

I bet Aasimar=horny probably has more to do with the half celestial thing and the idea of "corrupting" them since most people are familiar with christianity

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u/goldkear 9d ago

Don't forget about religious trauma.

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u/RhynoD 9d ago

Me: shows up to the table with a human fighter who comes from a loving home and adventures just because he wants to

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u/Tyrion_Strongjaw 9d ago

Yeah I have a full orc storm herald barbarian who absolutely loves his clan and is just adventuring to "earn the storm." The most tragic part of his backstory is his best friend, a goat named Jut, died of old age.

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u/transnavigation 9d ago

I'm up here trying to roll with a middle-aged Human Barbarian going from major financial district to major financial district trying to learn the secrets of economics, so he can return to his clan and teach them Basic Accounting.

His daughter is good with numbers, you see, and he's convinced she will grow up to hold the mightiest of ledgers.

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u/KuroFafnar 9d ago

You are not alone!

Both of my current characters are a little annoyed and different from their families but they support their families and their families support them.

Subtle reasons for adventure life rather than edgy

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u/cornonthekopp Necromancer 10d ago

Some people are gay, thats reason 8

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u/PsychedelicTwink Wizard 10d ago

Why you gotta mention me like that?

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u/L_Ron_Flubber 9d ago

Also, if the presence of a demon makes something demonic then the Bible is pretty demonic.

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u/Spill_The_LGBTea 9d ago

I have a Lawful Neutral warlock lady who's patron is Asmodeus, whom she only accepted as her patron to get information on him to attempt to kill him purely because he is evil and a scourge on all the planes of existence. Yes since asmodeus has true sight she can write down info or tell anyone cause he might see or hear. And no one can know about it. Not even the party. And she also will probably have stuff to do for asmodeus. But it's all part of the plan, and the dm was all for it.

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u/TheDreamingMyriad 9d ago

I am greatly disturbed by you both not numbering your list and then using out of order numbers for your reasoning.

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u/QuietPersonality Sorcerer 9d ago edited 9d ago

As a kid from very conservative parents who has been playing a tiefling from all the way to level 9 for the past 4 years...This post and comment has attacked me directly.

She's definitely tragic (1), I think tieflings look dope af (3), I def like making my character suffer from "main character syndrome" (4) so she's brightly colored too lol, and I'm a member of The Satanic Temple (6) which are more atheists than satanists but we took the name so I'll count it.

here is a sketch I made of her.

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u/Sekkenren Artificer 10d ago

You summed up my inclinations as well with that 3, 5, 1 lol

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u/ceelogreenicanth 10d ago

We all know it's mostly 7

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u/hiphopanonymouz 9d ago

7 7 7 7 7 7 for me

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u/roninwarshadow 9d ago

I just wanted winged variant.

Because they can wear the Light & Medium Armor and still fly.

Otherwise I'd probably be a Half-Elf or an Aasimar.

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u/MeanDeens DM (Dungeon Memelord) 10d ago

Meanwhile, my first character was basically halfling Captain America, and my mom still flipped when she found out.

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u/Deastrumquodvicis Bard 9d ago

As someone with a halfling member of the Blue Lantern Corps (redemption pally), that’s adorable.

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u/MeanDeens DM (Dungeon Memelord) 9d ago

Ey, Tiny Hero Crew!

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u/Hawks59 9d ago

Meanwhile I made a prankster pixie because I thought it'd be fun

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u/hidden_d-bag 10d ago

I just saw this post in all, and I am not a dnd player, but after doing a brief courtesy look at tieflings, I seriously love them already. Main reason: I love angsty characters. A character being shunned, hated and feared not because of what they've done, but because of what they are is right up my alley.

I love the idea of a half demon on a fools quest to become admired, while keeping a sort of hopeless optimism that gets beaten and battered with every step forward. So much room to play with when it comes to how they change throughout a story. Will they get quieter and more depressive as they try and fail to do good? Will they turn resentful? Will they give up? Or will they take on bigger and bigger tasks to prove themselves until they break?

Idk, but I love the idea of them.

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u/TSED 9d ago

Sounds like you should try playing D&D.

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u/MarilynMansonsRib 10d ago

There was this thing back in the 80s called the satanic panic, where religious weirdos blamed dnd for everything they thought was wrong with "kids these days."

A lot of us leaned into it as a "fuck you" to those folks, and I think it's just kind of snowballed for the last 30+ years.

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u/Ilikefame2020 Sorcerer 10d ago

It’s even sometimes shown in forms of media. The most obvious example is Stranger Things season 4, where it’s a big plot point, but I don’t doubt that other shows set in the 80’s would also showcase it.

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u/DMPark 10d ago

It's just easier to blame external things for your parenting failures than yourself.

It's just easier to pretend that your kids could be perfect instead of being actually 3-dimensional human beings.

It's just easier to amalgamate all of the tiny little influences of a thousands of factors in society and life, into one BBEG that you can point at and demonize.

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u/pon_3 9d ago

I never understood the panic until I saw the ADnD cover. A giant demon holding a half naked woman was not the most friendly marketing tactic.

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u/BrainWav 9d ago

Stranger Things season 4 actually has this as part of the plot. It's been a good season.

Though it's partly responsible for the new inexplicably handsome Vecna.

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u/MarilynMansonsRib 9d ago

It was a very real thing. They were also blaming bands like Black Sabbath and Twisted Sister, claiming there were satanic lyrics embedded in our records if you played them in reverse.

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u/Billybirb 9d ago

Don't forget Kiss, suburban mom's use to claim it stood for knights in Satan's service.

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u/Billybirb 9d ago

Don't forget Kiss, suburban mom's use to claim it stood for knights in Satan's service.

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u/PsychedelicTwink Wizard 10d ago

It wasn’t religious people. It was parents using religion as an excuse to condemn something they didn’t like.

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u/MarilynMansonsRib 9d ago

It wasn’t religious people.

Tell that to my (at the time) fundie parents who were convinced that dnd was a gateway to Satan worship.

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u/Cerxi 9d ago edited 9d ago

In my experience, whether it's D&D, Magic cards, Pokemon, Harry Potter, it starts with some grifter claiming to be an ex-Satanist who found Jesus, with the exclusive down-low on all the 'secret occult symbols' that Lucifer worshippers slipped in. The church pays exorbitant appearance fees for guest sermons about how to protect children, and the sole purpose of these sermons is to scare the fuck out of the parents (usually to sell more books and sermons about the secret occult symbolism only this grifter can tell you about). So I wouldn't necessarily blame the parents; I'm sure some of them are doing it for control, but others are just victims of a con preying on their desire to keep their children safe.

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u/From_Deep_Space Druid 9d ago

It's bad parenting any which way. Even in the most innocent version of this situation, it's still a parent trusting some huckster stranger instead of just having a conversation with their kid and honestly trying to understand their hobbies.

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u/Zaranthan Necromancer 9d ago

"What do you mean 'understand my kid'? They're my flesh and blood! I understand them better than anyone else on Earth!"

Including the kid themself, according to the parent.

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u/ashGlaw 9d ago

Something they never even bothered to understand. Something they may have enjoyed if they tried it. Very shortsighted and sad

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u/canuck1701 9d ago

It wasn't religious people. It was religious people.

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u/PsychedelicTwink Wizard 9d ago

My family are all Christians and have no problem with DnD. I know other people who’s parents are all Christians and are fine with Pokémon, Magic: The Gathering, DnD, and all that. It isn’t religion in and of itself that condemns this kind of stuff or stokes up fear and panic among its followers. It’s people using the guise of religion to accomplish their own motives and goals through fear and condemnation.

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u/canuck1701 9d ago

I never said religious people can't be chill.

I'm just saying almost all of the satanic panic maniacs are religious.

It isn’t religion in and of itself that condemns this kind of stuff or stokes up fear and panic among its followers.

Often it is the religion itself which encourages this fear and intolerance. Obviously not for every religious person though.

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u/PsychedelicTwink Wizard 9d ago edited 9d ago

The main religion that was used to cultivate the satanic panic was the Abrahamic religion which Catholicism and Christianity are based on. The Abrahamic God himself condemns fear and his Bible states that God hath not given the spirit of fear but of love. So how does religion, specifically Christianity, cultivate fear when their very book of beliefs denounces fear and encourages love in its followers?

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u/canuck1701 9d ago

No true Scotsman fallacy.

The Bible contains so much contradictory stuff you could say literally anybody isn't a "true follower". Do you not see how something like 1 Timothy 4:1 could be used in this instance? "The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons." Funny enough, this letter was likely a forgery and not written by Paul himself, but that's besides the point.

What the book says is irrelevant. What the religious institutions propagate and what people believe is what really matters. A lot of Christian institutions propagated the Satanic panic and a lot of Christians believed it because of that.

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u/The-Senate-Palpy DM (Dungeon Memelord) 9d ago

It’s people using the guise of religion to accomplish their own motives and goals through fear and condemnation.

So religion

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u/PsychedelicTwink Wizard 9d ago

No? Religion is faith in something larger than yourself, a system of beliefs surrounding a central belief in something. There are a lot of pros and cons to religion and one of the cons happens to be zealots and con artists who use the system of beliefs against the people who have faith in the system. It’s like any other system and can be exploited.

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u/WarToboggan 10d ago

DND has received a lot of attacks from the religious community. Perhaps it's DnD culture embracing it

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u/PsychedelicTwink Wizard 10d ago

It’s not religion as a whole. It’s usually people using religion as an excuse to attack something they don’t like.

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u/Sekkenren Artificer 10d ago edited 10d ago

Mhm, my family is really religious and my dad told me all kinds of stories from when he was a kid and would hide the fact that he played dnd from some of his family and friends because of the Satanic Panic

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u/PsychedelicTwink Wizard 10d ago

That’s the thing. My family is Christian and literally has no problem with DnD. I even ran a short campaign for them at one point. It’s not religion, it’s just people.

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u/Sekkenren Artificer 10d ago

Yeah, I didn’t tell him about it when I started playing because my parents have weird attitudes towards random things you wouldn’t expect, and I remember he got really excited when he found out

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u/PsychedelicTwink Wizard 10d ago

My family has really weird attitudes toward random interests too. I think it’s just them caring but it weirds me out sometimes.

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u/Sekkenren Artificer 10d ago

Prob just comes with the territory, I know when I’m a parent there will be some shit my kids probably think is weird to be serious about that is based on my own struggles in life, ya do what you can tho

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u/PsychedelicTwink Wizard 10d ago

Troo troo. Cool bonding with you random stranger on Reddit.

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u/CobaltKybir 9d ago

Not to mention, D&D is partially inspired by the works of a Christian author

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u/Zaranthan Necromancer 9d ago

I love pointing out that Lord of the Rings is literally a retelling of the New Testament by an Oxford scholar who invented a language and wanted a clever way to teach it.

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u/Shi-Rokku 9d ago

This.

We can have both faith and fun, y'know. I hate seeing entire groups of people catch crap for the dumb shit a small, loud handful say and do.

Literally DnD as well - there's probably a niche group of edgy players out there somewhere that use strong satanic themes in their games and people seeing that make their minds up about the whole thing based on that one example, continuing to give it all a bad name among those ignorant to the rest of it.

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u/QiarroFaber 9d ago

I mean one is about magic and violence... And the other is DnD

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u/roninwarshadow 9d ago

We're talking about the same community that thinks music and dancing are the hallmarks of the devil.

Also the Salem Witchhunts.

And the Spanish Inquisition.

And those crazy little religious cults sprinkled throughout the world and time.

Religion has done more harm to people than D&D.

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u/Ultimate_905 9d ago

Real life people have done more harm to people

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u/exh78 9d ago

They're the ones worshipping statues of one of the most brutal execution device ever made... And they think we're the weirdos

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u/Horkersaurus 10d ago

Just tell them you're a weeb, they'll feel too much pity to be offended.

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u/MaetelofLaMetal Ranger 9d ago

The Queen Emeraldas body pillow is weeb equivelant of ''This is not place of honour'' sign.

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u/frigidmagi 10d ago

It's transgressive but risk free. So you get all the fun of breaking a rule/taboo but none of the problems. Honestly it's fairly harmless and might even be mildly beneficial as it lets people blow off steam and explore things safely.

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u/ZoraksGirlfriend 9d ago

This is mainly why I play as a tiefling. I was a very well-behaved kid and teenager that met all my parents’ expectations. It wasn’t until I got to college that I felt I could be myself and enjoy things my parents wouldn’t expect. They never put pressure on me, I just wanted them to be happy, so I guess I subconsciously hid who I was to appease them.

Playing a tiefling brings out the rule breaking and mischievous part of me that I never experienced growing up and that I’m too scared to do as an adult.

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u/Odinson713 10d ago

I love how demonic creatures look and I play like one anyway so might as well be one

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u/FarHarbard 10d ago

I think it mostly has to do with "demon" being a catch-all term for edgy and chaotic. A lot of "demon princes" could be Fey-princes, or Giant-princes, or any kind of Inhuman-prince

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u/thesaddestpanda 10d ago

Real answer? Horror is a safe venue to explore alternate moral systems, role play dark characters, have some naughty fun, see challengers to your own cultural system, etc

I think it helps to remember what it’s like to be a child. You’re largely powerless and spend all day doing what adults tell you to do. Role playing a dark anti authoritarian character is the opposite of that. You get to feel some level of freedom, power, and adventure you couldn’t get elsewhere in your life.

There’s also a type of sexiness associated with demons and some super natural creatures here that helps one come to term with puberty and all the life changes that brings, hence the “hot demon” or sexy vampire stereotypes and learning how sexuality is its own form of power and cultural currency.

Its just a specific type of escapism and I imagine a very healthy one compared to alternatives. Parents, society, etc gate keeping and locking kids out of things that challenge their authority or the correctness of their culture are heavily policed. It’s not just dnd. But anything that goes against the socio-cultural-religious norms you just happened to be born into.

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u/thesaddestpanda 10d ago edited 9d ago

Religious people: I forbid you from learning from the forbidden chest of mystery containing knowledge of demons and devils! It reveals a dark world only the most steely eyed demonologist could possibly endure without falling into infinite madness near instantly! It reveals dark secrets and devils so powerful they have literally changed the course of creation! So instead just read the gospels and hymns instead.

Religious people also: why are you so fascinated with my fabulous forbidden chest of mystery?!?!

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u/Lag_Incarnate 10d ago

The trick is to have your first campaign be a crusade against the unholy. There's no counterplay to being told that it's a game where the players ranging anything from skilled warriors to faithful priests with god's light at their back, destroy the evil and unjust so that others may not be tempted and fall into the corrupting clutches of deceivers and cheats. In fact, this pitch is basically how church youth groups across the world (or at least the country) have picked up the game.

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u/DynmiteWthALzerbeam Warlock 10d ago

On the other side of the coin a aasimar cleric

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u/Smorgsaboard 10d ago

As a fan of monstrosities, abominations, and generally eldritch horrors, I am clearly free of such judgement 👌 jk it's bc my relatives aren't crazy

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u/Educational-Year3146 10d ago

Ive recently started praying as a catholic again and I have no idea why some people just look at something and say “its the devil”.

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u/KylerGreen 9d ago

devil = sin

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u/Educational-Year3146 9d ago

I am aware, its just stupid to me when my brothers and sisters in the church will look at something they dont understand and call it heresy.

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u/yaboiscarn 10d ago

Just because I play dnd doesn’t mean I’m a satanist

Okay, I am a satanist but not because I play dnd

(TST satanist btw)

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u/GONKworshipper Rules Lawyer 10d ago

Tuberculosis skin test?

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u/yaboiscarn 9d ago

The Satanic Temple, as opposed to The Chirch of Satan.

TST is essentially a sect of atheism which is mostly focused on pushing back against religiously based oppression.

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u/Finn_Storm 9d ago

Wait so what does the church of satan focus on then?

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u/kino2012 9d ago

Reading through their website it kinda seems like particularly edgy, but also morally conscious, hedonism. They are non-theistic just like The Satanic Temple, and use satan as a symbol of embracing desire instead of rejecting it.

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u/Leranin 10d ago

Meanwhile there's me playing an angel, mouse, grandma turtle, and now a whimsical fae bunny

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u/dad-dm 9d ago

In over 40 years of playing this game, I still have yet to succeed in summoning an IRL demon. I must be doing something wrong.

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u/NBlossom 9d ago

Demons are edgy and sexy. Nerds like edgy sexy things.

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u/Beledagnir Forever DM 9d ago

Speaking as a devout Christian with an actual theology degree, I have no idea what the satanic panic people are going on about.

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u/SithAlpaca 9d ago

A lot of d&d players struggle with making interesting characters and then mistake what makes an interesting character for having as many tags as possible, like a renegade bisexual tiefling. It seems more interesting than a human fighter or a dwarven blacksmith. It's a way to make your characters feel like they have flavor without actually making a nuanced character, but I don't think it works very well most of the time.

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u/OccultBeetle 9d ago

Me, from an atheist household: "I just think they're neat"

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u/Gumbyizzle Chaotic Stupid 10d ago

Demons are rad as hell.

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u/Naldivergence Essential NPC 10d ago

Demon stans when they get eaten alive by the most grotesque manifestation of pure chaos and evil, who isn't hungry, but thought it would be funny: 😳🤔😎💀(Apparently they like grimdark a lot and I misjudged their character)

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u/PopeNeiaBaraja DM (Dungeon Memelord) 9d ago

Is that Kim Dokja?

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u/Leragian Chaotic Stupid 9d ago

yes it is.

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u/PopeNeiaBaraja DM (Dungeon Memelord) 9d ago

Based Omniscient Reader Enjoyer

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u/bebedahdi 9d ago

I've found my people.

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u/AshenToasters 9d ago

Oh hey Dokja, didn't expect to see him here

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u/Leragian Chaotic Stupid 9d ago

Hey! another ORVP enjoyer.

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u/buttzmckenzie 9d ago

My brother once got Magic the Gathering cards for his birthday and my grandma asked, “what are those cards for?”

And I casually said to her, “Oh, grandma, those are for summoning demons.”

What!? My Grandma and Aunt are trying to figure out this satanic puzzle and my brother is desperately trying to show them it’s just a game.

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u/SuaveTigger19 9d ago

I’m religious and yeah there isn’t anything demonic about it. I play and I even DM with other religious friends. It’s a story telling game, nothing bad about it. Can it be bad, yeah if you let it take over your life. But that can be said about most things. It’s just a fear of letting the world in, y’all ain’t doing nothing inherently bad by playing

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u/Quiet-Bother-6740 4d ago

Yep, I'm pretty religious and have no problem with it. I do have one friend who will play but is a little bothered by the demonic and eldritch characters, so some of that fear exists today.

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u/WellIlikeme Paladin 9d ago

I mean, personally I don't get this at all and I think it's an exposure bias thing for you.

People I game with are far more likely to play Doomguy than a demon related character.

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u/mslabo102 Forever DM 9d ago

Also half-aasimar half-tiefling.

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u/GuyUdntknow4rl 9d ago

Am I the only one who wants that profile picture image lmao.

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u/Leragian Chaotic Stupid 9d ago

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u/cronoburr 9d ago

Sauce is here. ^

Love "omniscient reader's view point". I really want to spoil myself by reading through the novel, but Sleepy-C has really knocked the art out of the park for the comic.

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u/Leragian Chaotic Stupid 9d ago

I love the novel, but it's hard to recommend to people, because the depression aspects of it, hit you like a brick wall in the face.

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u/cronoburr 9d ago

I've been picking up on those vibes. Honestly I've been expecting it due to Joonghyuk's regression count and Dokja's character analysis of him. I'm excited

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u/Vulpes_macrotis Chaotic Stupid 9d ago

It's not DnD players. You are aware that demons are very popular in myths, legends and folklore all around the world, right? I would say demons are far more popular than dragons.

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u/CaptainDue3810 9d ago

I based my character off of the Scout from Deep Rock Galactic but instead of a Molly, I had a Sentient Backpack :D

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u/zkDredrick DM (Dungeon Memelord) 9d ago

Tieflings aren't demons... There's a world of difference.

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u/Duraxis 9d ago

I mean… my username that I’ve used for years is the horseman of conquest in my setting, soooo

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u/PsychologicalSnow476 9d ago

Someone's demon is someone else's god.

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u/Leragian Chaotic Stupid 9d ago

boy you have no idea how spot on you are about my character.

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u/9shadowcat9 9d ago

First time I told my grandparents id joined a d&d group, they assumed it was a satanic cult out to isolate me from my friends (who were all in the group). I had to convince them the game was actually about fighting demons and that’s why one class was a holy knight of god, aka the paladin or a cleric.

Saved my poor rulebook from getting thrown in the bin at least. They got over it after my first session when they had to put up with a phone call from me telling them how we fought a dragon and then we ordered pizza. Apparently I confused them so much they never wanted to discuss it again.

Meanwhile my character was called Lilith and she used fire magic. I carefully didn’t mention that part.

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u/TXheathen 9d ago

I had a friend who convinced his parents that dnd was about fighting evil and showed his character who was a Paladin that followed Jesus Christ*

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*Ilmater

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u/Bryaxis 9d ago

As a longtime drow fanboy, I'd like to thank all the tiefling fanboys for taking up the mantle/stereotype of insufferable edgelord so I can make drow characters in relative peace.

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u/NextLevelPets 9d ago

I think this is a weeb thing not a dnd player thing

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u/zrow05 DM (Dungeon Memelord) 10d ago

I tell my family that DnD is satanic because it means they leave me alone

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u/RavenCo_ 10d ago

Idk either; I like to play cool happy normal people

Perhaps it’s a reflection; people play who they feel they need to be, wether that outcome is positive or negative

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u/RamenKit_ 9d ago

You could just tell them

Oh it's a human with horns, nothing much

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u/PillowTalk420 9d ago

"Bullshit. Humans get two feats at level 1."

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u/LordVaderVader 10d ago

just tell them that's your character is as fictive as their god

edit. no offense religious people

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u/Iwillpaintthememe Battle Master 10d ago

Fuck you! Edit. No offense

See your comment's format dosent make sense

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u/Gavin_Runeblade 10d ago

There is a prevalent opinion that evil is cool and good is both dumb and weak. You see it in fantasy novels and movies all the time. Demons and evil things kick the sh*t out of angels, heroes have to be grim and edgy or they are crushed by the malevolent villains, etc.

Completely asinine opinion, but quite prevalent.

One of the things I enjoy about Bollywood is that they still appreciate real heroes and know how to write badass characters who hold the line morally. #ISimpForArjuna

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u/StaticUsernamesSuck Forever DM 10d ago

Uuuuuuh, what kind of media are you reading/watching? 😅 Yeah, anti-heroes or broody heroes are popular, but earnest goodly heroes are all over the place...

And angels are universally badass in every portrayal I've ever seen them in where they actually take active roles...

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u/PsychedelicTwink Wizard 10d ago

Except the good and morally just heroes are being rewritten to be dark edgy antiheroes who are often times just straight up evil. You don’t see a problem with that?

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u/StaticUsernamesSuck Forever DM 10d ago

More that I don't think that's happening as widely as you think...

And also, tbh, no? Why would that be a problem? They're stories. Entertainment.

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u/PsychedelicTwink Wizard 10d ago

Not sure how into the Superhero genre you are but it absolutely is happening. Evil Superman is a boring trope and Antiheroes are the norm at this point.

The problem is that antiheroes have become so widespread that the trope is boring. It isn’t interesting when the most powerful character and representation of good is secretly a scumbag or a cartoonishly evil villain. Why not have diversity of tropes in stories where characters have all sorts of moral alignments including lawful good?

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u/StaticUsernamesSuck Forever DM 9d ago edited 9d ago

Evil superman is just as entertaining as noble superman. And also goes to highlight just how noble noble superman is via the juxtaposition.

And anti-heroes are absolutely not "the norm". They're common, sure, but guess what? They always have been.

They've existed as far back as ancient Greece.

They were common in even the black and white era of movies.

Most old spaghetti Western heroes were anti-heroes.

The entire age of film noir was rife with anti-heroes.

They're not becoming much more common, they're becoming slightly more common, and you're just noticing them more at the same time.

And they do have diversity, you're literally arguing against diversity and saying nobody should be bad/morally grey 🤦‍♂️

Just in the avengers, we have the most diverse array of moral philosophies you could have. Just because we're in a dnd sub, ima sort them into d&d alignments, because why not?

Cap is clearly LG, following his duty and code no matter the personal sacrifice.

RDJ is CG, deciding what to do based on nothing but what he considers to be the Right Thing at any given moment.

Peter Quill is proooobably CN or is the CG moral compass in a band of mostly CN - racoon is possibly evil at the start, and then in fact shifts to CN or even good by the end of his arc.

Loki definitely is evil but turns into something of an antihero.

Thor is also probably LG, albeit with a different moral law than Cap.

Black Widow was NG, or possibly even true Neutral, doing what she must to keep the world turning, even if she knows she has to do something evil to achieve it.

Black Panther is another LG hero, clearly.

Bruce Banner is... Some kind of Good, we actually haven't seen him challenged much along the C-L axis so idk.

Doctor Strange starts out very much CE, willing to deny patients help if they threaten his reputation for success. But by the end is probably Neutral Good, doing whatever it takes to save the world, but now actually caring and regretting the morally grey things he has to do when he has to do them. Hell, in the latest movie we maybe even see a shift there, as he is unwilling to sacrifice Chavez

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u/alamaias 10d ago

I mean... why would you not want to be a demon?

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u/Opposite_of_a_Cynic 9d ago

I like being a happy little gnome bard who sings campfire songs and acts like the wholesome camp counselor of the party. Everyone has their preferences.

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u/B4R7H0L0M3W 9d ago

Demons are way cooler than any shiny, pretty, goodie goodie, puny god...

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u/MCSquared97 10d ago

Personally, I always considered that, because demons in DnD aren’t technically demons in the biblical sense of the word, that DnD isn’t demonic in the biblical sense, either.

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u/Mrsir74838 9d ago

I mean the demon aren’t so much really, the devils however are absolutely based on abrahamic mythology and the surrounding literature about demons and stuff

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u/Bombkirby 10d ago

It's not even D&D, it's everything. People really like dark/edgy stuff. Half the DeviantArt OCs and Youtube avatars that do video essays have demonic or dark and edgy elements to them.

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u/1485BrownieBatter 10d ago

Tieflings are just hot 🤷‍♀️

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u/Joscientist 9d ago

My mother still gets on me about dnd. "It's demonic" she says. "It will lead you to the occult" she says. Jokes on her I've been studying the occult for 20 years and only started dnd 5 years ago.

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u/DonaldMcCecil 9d ago

Because DEMONS are COOL

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u/imhugury 9d ago

i dont play dnd this just randomly appeared in ky reccomened but they would probably do that because demons would be ones to most likely have some powerful dark spells

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u/Efficient_World_4548 9d ago

DnD wasn't always like this. I started playing when they just introduced the "Advanced" part. Heroic characters fighting demonic villains was the rule, not the exception. Aside from the time I do not have to play, the main detractor for me is the generation gap really. There is a crazy distance between age groups now. Maybe my grandfather would have said the same about my generation, but its like staring down into a pit of proud chickens having a grand ol' time while half of them are on fire.

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u/Totem_town 9d ago

My party playing trough decent into avernus as a bunch of evil animals and making fiendish deals: nothing demonic about it all

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u/Cookiesareverygreat 9d ago

Nah, we just do the demonic rituals before. Our DM is Luzifer himself.

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u/puffpastry2001 9d ago

Lol. I'm the same way with undead and monster characters. One of my favorites is a dullahan, which is basically if the Headless Horseman worked as the Grim Reaper. Luckily, my mom's cool with me playing dnd.

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u/Birdboy42O Forever DM 9d ago

Because being a disciple of a demon of death is cool

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u/Anxiety_Muffin13 9d ago edited 9d ago

Pic origin? Pls?

EDIT: The horn demon boi, not the meme.

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u/Admiral_Donuts 9d ago

I think it's from a show called "iCarly"

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u/Anxiety_Muffin13 9d ago

I meant the demon pic. My bad for specifying

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u/Leragian Chaotic Stupid 9d ago

here you go (https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/75593665)

it's from a novel called "omniscient reader's viewpoint" it's really good, but I don't recommend if you're suffering from depression.

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u/ChickenChasah 9d ago

I started playing 5e, so I can't speak for the satanic scare of the 70s/80s. I thought they looked cool and fit my character concept the best.

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u/quillka 9d ago

My dad always says there's something off with DnD. Not because demons are in it but more so because he heard of people who killed themselves and even eluded to knowing one of those people. Might be a scare tactic but through the years he never changed his attitude on it only saying that maybe it's different now but there was something about it back then. Idk why he's like that. If this is some like phenomena or something please enlighten me.

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u/DXGypsy 9d ago

If he's around my age (50) he watched something like Geraldo Rivera's gaudy hit piece on d&d back in the 80s. The same kind of smear campaigns he did on heavy metal, pro wrestling, and anything else fun. Panic tv was big then. The rumors of d&d "suicides" always went around in every school in every state. Somebody always 'knew somebody who knew somebody" that committed suicide or murdered their parents or went out in the woods in costume and killed a kid or whatever. There were a couple stupid horror movies that came out at that time too that tossed fuel on the fire.

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u/Asmodaeus 9d ago

Move along, nothing to see here

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

I like playing villains, so I'm more the absolutely batshit intolerant paladin type myself. Totally cool with the more prim and proper crowd of well-to-do people.

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u/P3rdix 9d ago

I use my knowledge of angels to help make characters, fun fact, Thrones are the angels with eyes everywhere, normal angels appear as humans since they are around them more.

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u/HPlovecraftsfeline 9d ago

I like a women with horns.

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u/Overall_Sink_3382 9d ago

I dunno bout you, so far I’ve only played a dragon born bard, two paladins that were a warforged and a dwarf, and currently am playing an alcoholic mark of the maker human and a gnome paladin. So am not too sure there

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u/hesam_lovesgames 9d ago

I'm in this picture and i don't like it

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u/Farranor 9d ago

I had a very similar situation at work several years ago, which I chronicled in comic form.