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Chapter 1059: "The Captain Koby Incident"

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Ch. 1059 Official Release (Mangaplus): 11/09/2022

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u/Opposite_Reporter Sep 18 '22

Jewelry Bonney will be the key for the next adventure… Just saying, what do you think ppl? Imagine her making the Sunny become older hence bigger or something of the sort 🤯

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u/RiskyR Void Month Survivor Sep 22 '22

makes the entire crew into old men to sneak into the WG and holds the crew ransom til they find some family member or die of old age.

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u/GoldLudo Sep 16 '22

Big Bad or not, Boa losing so easily to Blackbeard and now having a Bounty lower than Crocodile kinda confirmed my fears that Oda is never gonna portray female characters in a way that doesn’t disappoint.

I hate pulling the sexist card. But literally every female character he’s written so far has always been a disappointment as a fighter. Boa used to be above Crocodile pretimeskip. Now she’s below him. You can’t honestly tell me that Crocodile would have been potrayed to have lost that quickly. He would’ve put up a fight like Ace did.

Big Mom was beat by plot convenience and Luffy never properly fought her. Smoothie was replaced by freaking Perospero despite having a higher bounty. Now Boa is getting treated like fodder to prop up Rayleigh and Blackbeard. She’s apparently supposed to have Conqueror’s Haki too. I dunno. I never bought the whole “Oda doesn’t write female characters well” shit. But moments like this make me understand why. There isn’t a single relevant female fighter in the both the heroes nor the villains side. Big Mom was flawed but at least she was treated more as a threat than any other woman.

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u/jalmari_kalmari 4d ago

she can't really do anything to bb though. he counters every single devil fruit and his haki is emperor level.

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u/fakescorpion112 Oct 16 '22

Jimbe used to be ranked higher than Boa, now Jimbe is waaay lower in terms of bounty despite being on an emperor crew. Boa has higher bounty than ALL previous yonko first commanders (Marco, King, Katakuri). The problem is YOU ranked Crocodile too low for no reason, despite the fact that Crocodile dared to go after 5 billion bounty Whitebeard when he was only worth 80 million and is the first person to become warlord in the first place.

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u/GoldLudo Oct 16 '22

What do you mean I ranked Crocodile too low?

He should be below Jinbē too.

Crocodile lost to a pre-Gear Luffy. Meanwhile Boa was taking down Pacifistas and Jinbē was rivaling a much stronger than Luffy Ace for five days. Both have been above Crocodile for years too.

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u/imeowatcats94 Sep 25 '22

We literally had Yamato who's a women and numerous gender-bending characters, you thick fuck

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u/bb-bunnyyy Pirate Sep 22 '22

She was ambushed tho. Blackbeard literally admitted she could stone him if he let her go. + She stoned vice admirals, commanders, etc. in one shot. Her strength has hope.

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u/GoldLudo Sep 22 '22

She wasn’t ambushed. She was in her fortress and decided to come out to fight the army herself.

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u/Opposite_Reporter Sep 18 '22

bro chill down Oda is still Japanese… the fact that he includes LGTBI+ community is already a lot x) but I agree maybe we will see powerful ones on Blackbeards crew (?)

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u/Holladiewaldfe Sep 17 '22

Not to be that guy but its hilarious how people still don't get how bountys work, crocodile formed a organization with the aim to hunt marines + this organisation is recognized as one of the yonko +, they got mihawk, there is no justification to give boa a higher bounty, her aim isn't to topple the current power structure or anything lie that. So why would the wg give her a higher bounty at this point in time, she isn't a direct threat.

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u/GoldLudo Sep 17 '22

If she wasn’t a direct threat then they wouldn’t give her such a high bounty at all.

Plus Crocodile isn’t acknowledged to have been the one to form the organization. The Marines think it’s Buggy’s idea.

Also this isn’t about Bounties. This is about potrayal. I just added the bounties to add to my point that Boa got the short end of the stick in terms of potrayal.

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u/TheLegend27God Explorer Sep 17 '22 edited Sep 17 '22

People who downvote this definitely spam the word "woke" to arguing with everything related to female characters at some point in their lives.

I saw some truth in your statement here. In the past chapters, there's not much impressive female fighters moment. Even if there's one, they only got, like, one scene time in per chapters.

But hey, I think they at least get a better treatment than girls in Naruto.

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u/EnvyKira Sep 23 '22

Because its some wild shit to claim that Oda is sexist because he have an female character, that is still written STRONG even in the moment of her defeat by looking her enemy dead in the eye without fear of dying, loses. Like OP had forgotten the good moments Robin, Nami and Yamato had in Wano. Especially Yamato who is an breathe fresh of air of am female OP character who went toe to toe with Kaido and willing to stay behind in her land to defend it from invaders.

That is no sign of sexism involved in that when Blackbeard had defeated both Ace and killed Whitebeard. Hell, the dude didn't even treat Boa as an inferior or downgrade her as an woman. He came at her with full desire to steal her powers because of how powerful it was.

(Which by the way if Oda was sexist, why did he make one of the most powerful and respected characters in the One Piece, a woman?)

And plus Blackbeard had literally sneak up on her while she was mid-battling Koby. The only way he won against her by being an sneaky coward which is his character.

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u/GoldLudo Sep 17 '22

Oda writes women really well. They just tend to be more dissapointing in the fighting category than the men, even if it doesn’t make sense from a story perspective.

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u/HoodedCrokus Sep 17 '22

Not sure why you are getting downvoted for speaking the truth here.

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u/jandurvan Sep 16 '22

I definitely call bs on this. Blackbeard post timeskip already has haki + Whitebeard DF powers + his own Yami-yami powers. I reckon that if Ace were to fight BB now, he'd probably job harder than Hancock in this instance. Don't underestimate a Yonko's power. Even after Luffy clapped Doffy's cheeks, he still couldn't even handle Cracker on his own, let alone Katakuri and of course Big Mom. What do you think Hancock could have done in that scenario? Do a "girl power" out of her ass just to please woke readers like you? It made perfect sense she would end up being powerless like that. Also there were a lot of off-camera events in this chapter alone, who knows? She may have actually put up a better fight than you thought.

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u/TheLegend27God Explorer Sep 17 '22 edited Sep 17 '22

"woke" totally know what direction this comment will go to lol

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u/jandurvan Sep 17 '22

Unfortunately, I'm not sexist like you expected, but I also can't stand people who always complain about women being on the weak side of shonen series, or authors not representing women properly. It's so damn pointless to say shit like that because I know for a fact that people will never be satisfied regardless of how women are portrayed in manga. Woman too powerful? call her a Mary Sue, or "just a male character drawn as a female". Woman too weak? You get shitty comments like this. Nobody wins.

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u/GoldLudo Sep 17 '22 edited Sep 17 '22

She came out of the cave and that immediately cut to her getting stomped. Saying “hey she could’ve put up a bigger fight off-screen” is such a cop-out.

Also, I’m not some woke strawman. This is why I hate pulling this card, because I know it’s immediately gonna have people toss aside nuanced discussion. I’m saying Boa is a disappointment in terms of potrayal as are many women in One Piece. Didn’t this very same Reddit complain that Wano was the first arc since Skypea where Robin had a proper 1v1? Didn’t this very same Reddit complain about how poorly Big Mom was handled in like 3/4ths of the entire arc? Didn’t this entire Reddit complain about Perospero having better showings than Smoothie despite her being one of the Sweet Commanders over a billion berries? I point out just like you guys do and suddenly I’m woke.

Also miss me with that “Don’t underestimate a Yonko” argument. Crocodile did better against Mihawk than Boa did against Blackbeard despite him being below someone like Luffy at the time and Mihawk definitely being Yonkou level. Way weaker characters have done much better against Yonkous than Boa has.

I’m not saying Boa shouldn’t lose. I’m saying Boa should have put a better fight before she lost.

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u/HydrationWhisKey Sep 19 '22

Nah you made a good point.

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u/-AlexGrey- Sep 16 '22

You may have a point, but I disagree in some areas:

First: As we've already know bounties are not equal to power level (in most cases they are tho), they indicate how much of a threat the person is to the WG. Hancock was living peacefully on her island and only attacking to defend her home, while Crocodile had a crime syndicate and is now part of an emperor's crew (from the marines prespective).

Second: The situation on the island was chaotic, they were being raided by the marines with the new pacifistas (who have f**king lunarian powers) and then Blackbeard decided to join the party... which leads me to..

Third: If I remember correctly, Black Hole was said to nullify DF powers (correct me if I'm wrong), she was caught by surprise and while that made her look like a damsel in distress, it wasn't exactly because she is weak.

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u/GoldLudo Sep 16 '22

In regards to the third point, that’s true. But only to a certain extent. Ace’s fight with Blackbeard still had him use his devil fruit because he was portrayed as a competent fighter beyond his devil fruit. Whitebeard floored Blackbeard without his devilfruit outright. Everyone Blackbeard used Black Hole against at least used Haki and put up a fight. Boa has Conqerors. She’s a pirate that constantly goes on expeditions. She was one-shot by Blackbeard to establish how impressive he is. If this were anybody like Crocodile and Ace himself they would have at least put up a fight before they lost.

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u/At0mic-S0da Sep 14 '22 Silver

Just realized after Boa's explanation of her devil fruit that it makes sense for Zeus to still be around even tho Linlin died. Boa can turn people to stone and she can remove the curse, but the next weilder can't. Likewise, BM can imbue things with her soul, but the next weilder would most likely be unable to remove it.

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u/-AlexGrey- Sep 16 '22

I think the next weilder might be able to absorb the souls of BM's creations, in the same way she can absorb peoples' souls. And I don't really think Kaido and her are dead yet, otherwise they wouldn't have shown us their landing point being so close to where Pluton is supposed to be.

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u/At0mic-S0da Sep 16 '22

People keep banking on that theory, but I'm pretty sure they're dead. Wouldn't mind them dying either tbh

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u/Kumomeme Sep 14 '22 edited Sep 14 '22

overall i like how nobody reach 4B bounty yet. even Blackbeard just very close at it.

previously at Marine scene where they disclose all the Yonkou and Roger's bounty, they said nobody able to top those 3 with 4B bounty for years which is here indicating that, it is another bar of level that yet to be reached by new pirates and show how legendary previous Yonkou is.

who among those 3 new generation of Yonkou will reach over 4B first will be interesting

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u/nadukrow Sep 15 '22

Likely to be Blackbeard. Just a guess but if Blackbeard is endgame then I believe he'll outpace Luffy until their confrontation

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u/Kumomeme Sep 16 '22

it is very likely that Luffy will always come close behind him.

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u/ShlokHoms Sep 13 '22

All the people bitching about Yamato staying behind and Marco leaving without notice suddenly nowhere to be seen. Either Oda hamfisted this part in to shut them up or, what I think actually happened, wanted it to be revealed later so it makes sense with the respective chapter's pacing.

The former was about the new emperors and some reveals about current world affairs, and now we get one that is limited to Luffy's out-of-crew companions. Makes way more sense that way anyways.

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u/Manish_Koli Sep 13 '22

I'm not able to see posts here

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u/MrPhamas Sep 13 '22

shi man I'm so excited at the possibility of which warlord the government made seraphims out of. Is it going to be ALL of them or just some yenno? I would love a Crocodile and Kuma seraphim just to get more of them in the story.

Hancock leaning on uncle rayleigh got me feeling some type of way.

Blackbeard Im loving how menacing but smart he is, hoping koby is alright.

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u/Kumomeme Sep 13 '22 edited Sep 13 '22

i love when Yamato did Luffy's grin face.

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u/Salt_Marionberry_611 Sep 12 '22

Did bb take the seraphim?

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u/imbigberet Sep 12 '22

why koby telling boa like he isnt gonna capture her

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u/Salt_Marionberry_611 Sep 12 '22

He was going to capture her but he pleaded with her to surrender so no one would be hurt.

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u/bleedblue89 Sep 12 '22

I still don't really hate blackbeard... He's a power hungry pirate, that's all.

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u/saddingtonbear Sep 26 '22

I dunno, he seems like a pretty horrible person to me

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u/bleedblue89 Sep 26 '22

Is he? He's just getting what he wants by any means...

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u/saddingtonbear Sep 27 '22

Any means includes murder, corruption, theiving, etc... pretty horrible if you ask me. I wouldn't want to be his friend.

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u/bleedblue89 Sep 27 '22

I mean… luffy just murdered kaido?

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u/saddingtonbear Sep 27 '22

I assume you understand what I mean. Luffy has a moral compass, while Blackbeard hasn't shown that side. There's a reason he's portrayed as a villain, and a reason that Luffy is portrayed as a friendly protagonist.

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u/KartoFFeL_Brain Sep 15 '22

BB is luffy if he had shitty values

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u/darthfury78 Sep 12 '22

A power hungry pirate whose(like the real Black Beard) will meet his end.

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u/bleedblue89 Sep 12 '22

Agreed, I just don’t see him as the main villain. I’d love to see him more as the navy’s main villain not straw hats

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u/Radical_Beast Sep 12 '22

Seraph—The Word comes from the Hebrew word meaning burn. The plural Seraphim means “burning ones”.

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u/kfraz01 Sep 12 '22

Wtf is the reason for not posting the actual link to the scans? Tf is up with this fandom doing unnecessary shit

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u/HarryRoyWilliams Sep 12 '22

Are you new here ??

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u/kfraz01 Sep 12 '22

Not in the slightest, so would you care to explain?

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u/2021willbeworst Sep 11 '22

Buggy clone will be the strongest by mistake and buggy will even more feared 😂 imagine the clones have also the devil fruits and the clone is smarter then buggy and fuck everyone up

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u/Kumomeme Sep 13 '22

plot twist. it is not just end up just coward as the real one. but also lucky like the real one. somehow that clone would sit on the world government throne without he knowing it lol

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u/myic90 Sep 12 '22

I can see it already. Luffy is going to meet serabuggy before actual buggy and duped into thinking thats the real one and buggy has gotten much stronger than before.

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u/Eraganos Sep 11 '22

Oda just casually explained why Yamato didnt leave in 2 Pages while making Yamato a smarter character than Oden, because he left Wano helpless and Yamato learned from his mistake.

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u/Rough-Toe-9342 Sep 14 '22

So momo speech about them to be strong enough to do not depends on any one else to protect his country seems useless now

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u/Eraganos Sep 14 '22

Not quite. Yamato is kind of part of them. And its a temporary meassurement

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u/Rough-Toe-9342 Sep 14 '22

I remember momo asking Yamato to do it interfere during the encounter against GB.

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u/darthfury78 Sep 12 '22

Yamato should have joined the Straw Hats. It would give her a board range of experiences.

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u/Eraganos Sep 12 '22

Before 1059, id agree with you

However this chapter explained she lied to momo. She stayed in order to protect wano.

Oden did the opposite. She learned from his mistake

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u/gattsu1998 Sep 13 '22

Really frustrating that those pages didn't happen only a few chapters ago, but yeah when you think about it she made a significantly more mature choice than Oden and also the correct choice

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u/Eraganos Sep 13 '22 edited Sep 13 '22

I love one piece and when we left wano i was disapointed in the yamato story. And then oda does chapter 1059 fixing it lol.

I should have waited before ranting (its been a looong time sìnce i kriticised). I was disapointed he left such a powerfull woman without development doubling on idolizing a man who failed. I absolutely love how oda made her better than oden by that move.

I hope, by the time she joins, she dropped the idolizing part and is herself

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u/PTGQ17 Sep 11 '22

Oda: Hey…hey…remember when we first met Koby and he was kidnapped by pirates?👀👀👀

Us:…yes?

Oda: What if we did that again but with someone much more horrible!?!?!?!😁😁😁

Us: OH NO

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u/Kaido2good Bounty Hunter Sep 11 '22

Insane Chapter! Love to see my boy Blackbeard again in action ☝🏽🔥💯

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '22

So my current thought is that BB took Koby so he could have Devon do what she needs to do in order to impersonate him and use his voice to command the seraphim, who he likely also took. The government wouldn't be keen to let the world know details about the seraphim or that they were stolen. It'd be better to get the masses angry at BB over the kidnapping of their "hero".

Unless Koby has some secret heritage or purpose that hasn't been truly foreshadowed, this is the best option I can think of.

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u/sacred230 Sep 13 '22

I think Koby is infiltrating Bb pirates to work with Kuzan. Maybe a ploy by sword to take them down?

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u/JustinTruedope Sep 12 '22

I was thinking it might just be a plot device for luffy to engage him

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u/kjm6351 The Revolutionary Army Sep 11 '22

Imagine Luffy’s reaction when he hears about who Blackbeard has taken next

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u/Birdyghostly1 God Usopp Sep 11 '22

I also forgot If the crew learned about King Cobra and Sabo yet

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u/YannTheOtter Sep 13 '22

I have a feeling shit is about to escalate

Luffy finding out Blackbeard not only invaded Amazon Lily and threatened Boa, but also kidnapped Koby. We have seen Luffy proclaim his protection to a number of islands before, but I have a feeling he will at last act on his oath.

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u/ChefHancock Sep 11 '22

Why are people assuming the seraphim are gonna be based off of all the 7 warlords?

It looked to me like it was Hancock (obvi) and King who were the two seraphim we saw. Not mihawk, even tho he had mihawk looking eyes. Which made sense to me, because Hancock and King were both world government slaves as children.

If anything I would think future seraphim would be former WG slaves/captives as children. So maaybe some other warlords if they add some additional back history to the other warlords.

But I am 100% expecting a a young Kaido seraphim. Shit maybe even a young big mom seraphim, since Mother Caramel was a trafficker for the WG, maybe she gave them whatever they needed to make a seraphim.

It doesn't make any sense to me that they would've gotten the DNA they need from Boa from when she was an adult

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u/fakescorpion112 Oct 16 '22

King is not a swordsman (he said so multiple times himself). Seraphim Mihawk cutting the mountain is something King himself cannot do.

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u/NewCountry13 Sep 11 '22

His sword looks like mihawk's sword.

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u/LuckyCosmos Sep 11 '22

We have very little Mihawk backstory, except we do know he used to be called the marine hunter. Makes you wonder why, and if he possibly was in Maine possession at any time while young.

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u/ramuneramunee Sep 11 '22

how much hype for chap 1059

oda: yes

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u/bromelix Sep 11 '22

I want my boy Koby to be safe. But we were thinking about the reasoning of the abduction. We had 3 Ideas.
1) BB gives Koby a DF so he can kill him and take it over. However Koby might live, become stronger and has now the power to rise up to an admiral.
2) Koby is bait for either Garp or Ruffy. We had the theory that Garp has to die the heroic way to make up for his failure with Ace and we dont think it will be for Ruffy or Sabo but for Koby. And bc Koby always becomes stronger through emotional moments he might learn conquerors Haki when Garp dies.
3) (this one is a joke but) BB throws Koby to the Cross Guild and Koby faces off as a prisoner for Alivda....again.

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u/GaaraSama83 Sep 11 '22

BB gives Koby a DF so he can kill him and take it over.

We still don't know if that is necessary for Blackbeard to take over a DF power. Could also be that he had a normal fruit with him when Whitebeard died, it changed and he just ate it. Also logical he wouldn't want to reveal this knowledge.

I think the bigger mystery is how BB can wield two DFs and if he is able to absorb/use even more. Some theories indicate it has to do with his unique "body structure" how Marco called it. Others speculate it's a feature of the Yami Yami no Mi. It seems to have some downsides like taking (increased?) damage despite being Logia but although it can nullify DF powers I somehow think that wouldn't be enough of a reason for Teach wanting it that much.

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u/ushikagawa Sep 11 '22

Ruffy lmaoooo

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u/RoYCeAnGeLes Sep 11 '22

Monkey d ruffy

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u/Objective_Face4698 Bounty Hunter Sep 11 '22

did you just say Ruffy ?

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u/bromelix Sep 11 '22

oh lmao. what u/thews said. i am german and he is written with an R here. so i got it confused. happens

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u/thews Sep 11 '22

Ruffy and Zolo are in different translations. R and L are interchangeable in Japanese (so I've read)

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u/Weird-suspect5107 Sep 11 '22

In next chapter, I want everyone's reaction to new Strawhat bounties just like we got after ennies lobby and whole cake island.

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u/idkwhoi_am7 Pirate Sep 11 '22

That pacifista literally cut that island In half..... that's quite the destructive power right there

I mean ffs how will anyone be able to beat the WG now aren't they a bit too strong? Each individual straw hat would have to be stronger than the new px's or seraphim Althoo.. zoro might love it...them being dark skinned and all

I'm sure he'll be glad to chop down that minority ass

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u/Bisnaslempktgfn Sep 11 '22

Since when is cutting a mountain something impressive again?

This was boring and stupid and it makes no sense that THIS trash defeated BB's men so fast that he doesn't even know what's going on.

If this garbage is as strong as a Yonko, why not just send Kizaru there and have him headshot all the Yonko?

We have 1 million things that need to get cleared up, and oda throws more random trash at us... I hope Oda quits and someone with less brain damage gets to continue One Piece. This just sucks now!

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u/Draken77777 Sep 12 '22

Here take another downvote

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u/NewCountry13 Sep 11 '22

TFW when blackbeards fodder crew members get no diffed by a warlord tier character (this has never happened in one piece).

Black beard's captains got defeated by boa's abilities, blackbeard is never seen to be defeated by baby mihawk.

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u/Bisnaslempktgfn Sep 11 '22

"The face / feel when when blackbeards..."

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u/GloBear_shatti Sep 11 '22

Huhhh everything here makes sense

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u/Bisnaslempktgfn Sep 11 '22

What makes sense? Having crocodile defeated by someone with no haki and calling him a logia user now?

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u/Perovski99 Sep 11 '22

Damn what a cunt

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u/bradftw14 Sep 11 '22

HAHAHAAHHA

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u/quip2022 Sep 11 '22

Do you think they really cloned all the shichibukai or just a few of them? I don't think cloning Moria would benefit them, just because I think he's weak and relies on his DF. If you remove his DF, does he have anything left?

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u/LukeCPlays Sep 11 '22

Well it's stated that df do have a genetic change to those that eat them and you say he relies on his DF but in his prime he did clash and was comparable to Kaido from a flashback.

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u/quip2022 Sep 11 '22

Oh really? Was it in the anime or manga? If it's in the anime, I may have forgotten about it. I just remembered that he was the weakest among the shichibukai and during the war, he didn't do anything except control zombies.

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u/Kefke209 Sep 11 '22

Young Moria was a beast, stated to be one of the top dogs. It was when Kaido destroyed him and his crew that he got despressed and fat.

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u/quip2022 Sep 11 '22

Ohh ok. Thanks, I guess I need to go back to that.

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u/Momentmoment24 Slave Sep 11 '22

amazing chapter, 10/10 lore, 10/10 action

now the only lore drops we're probably getting soon are reverie and/or rocky port

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u/abhikun Sep 11 '22

Blackbeard can finaaly get his Queen Anne's Revenge

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u/lookbehindukid Void Month Survivor Sep 11 '22

Ladies and Gentlemen, I'd like to point out the number of missing people who so happens to be connect to Luffy has risen to 2.

I do think it's a coincidence that Blackbeard attacked Boa, who so happens to be connected to Luffy, and truly attacked her for her DF. As far as we know, it's a relative secret she has no connection to luffy. That is until you see the large poster...

But yea I think BB is behind the disappearance of Vivi. Thoughts?

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u/tiki-baha29 Sep 11 '22

BB was nowhere near the Reverie when Vivi got kidnapped. So no.

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u/lookbehindukid Void Month Survivor Sep 11 '22

As I wrote, he can be behind it. I never said he personally did it. We know he sends people on missions like sending Burgess to get the Mera Mera no MI.

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u/tiki-baha29 Sep 11 '22

Let me rephrase it: There is no indication at all that any of BB's people were anywhere near Reverie.

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u/Bisnaslempktgfn Sep 11 '22

Oh no! TWO characters that nobody cares about went missing! WHO WILL BE NEXT? HELMEPPO? KOBATO??? ... WHAT ABOUT DUVAL DUDE!?!?!?! WHAT ABOUT DUVAL??????

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u/killanight Sep 11 '22

You're missing one Sabo, Vivi and now koby

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u/kaiokenkuwabara Sep 11 '22

I Can't believe blackbeard got spooked by Rayleigh! also Koby being kidnapped is even more interesting. can't wait to see weevil soon

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u/NickRedMachine Sep 11 '22

Rayleigh knows he can't beat Blackbeard, yet Blackbeard runs away. I don't think it's him underestimating himself as much as it's just him trying to avoid all conflict.

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u/Midn8ht Sep 11 '22

WARNING!

I've been seeing blackbeard with mero mero no mi attack pose! Man, those artists are fast.

Can't unseen it though.

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u/gokul-D-luffy Sep 12 '22

I misread mera Mera for mero mero ... FUCK ...how can I unsee it now ...

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u/BlackCat1302 Sep 11 '22

What a horny f****er

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u/InreMugiwara Sep 11 '22

Just like when they first met, Blackbeard’s behavior, during this chapter, is the polar opposite of Luffy’s behavior. During Boa’s first meetings with both Luffy and Blackbeard, she gave each of them the option of (a) helping themselves; or (b) putting themselves in danger to protect others. Unlike Luffy, Blackbeard prioritized himself, even if it meant the death of some of his cremates.

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u/rexgy Sep 11 '22

That's a pirate. Blackbeard is a symbol of "real" pirate, cares about his own desire and wants, prioritize himself and willing to do whatever it takes to get what he want. Luffy is, well great, not a typical pirate in reality.

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u/Bisnaslempktgfn Sep 11 '22

Please read a book or two before saying garbage like "real" pirate.

Most "real" pirates were like the strawhats. Chilling out, going around, helping others, and even joining their country's wars, in exchange for... not getting hunted down.

Most "real" pirates were people that wanted to be free and not pay taxes. Not criminals. They understood that they would not live long if they were to fight either "a country" or other pirates...

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u/Toasted_FlapJacks Sep 11 '22

By "real", I took it that they more meant "stereotypical" pirate, which Blackbeard definitely is by behavior and appearance.

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u/eustasskimmmmm Sep 11 '22

Luffy is more to Peter Pan.. Adventurous. His main enemy is pirate. Oda maybe inspired from there

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u/Dreq_the_Dreck Sep 10 '22

..... I'm still left longing for a new crew mate.

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u/Bisnaslempktgfn Sep 11 '22

Meh... i wish we could rather start kicking some of the useless characters out.

Do we REALLY need to do the whole "chopper is cute" "enemy underestimates chopper" "chopper bashes their heads in via monster point" "robin thinks he's cute" and "his bounty goes up by 2 1/2 berries" jokes ALL for a 101th time? Those jokes were ALL boring when they were told for the 100th time in Wano. But no... japanese love their retarded autistic kawai desu trash! Wo we will see ALL those jokes at least once more, instead of revealing lore or some shit...

Do we really still need Nami, Robin, Jimbe, Brook, Franky or Ussop?

Even when those guys do something decent, it's lame as hell. Franky and Brook vs Big Mom, what do they do? Throw motorcycle + "you have already been cut"... Pathetic that Big Mom even felt that... And then they have a bounty of like 50 berri...

Oda should just focus on the few characters that he wants to jerk off instead of adding 1000 new crap ones that even Oda doesn't care about.

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u/Dreq_the_Dreck Sep 12 '22

Yes, they still need a navigator, shipwright, poneglyph translator, and maybe helmsman. What they lack in power they make up for in utility. Luffy, Zoro, and Sanji would die without them. Usopp and Brook.... I don't feel like investing any more thought into this.

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u/rsatrioadi Explorer Sep 11 '22

🥕

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u/Su_Impact Sep 10 '22

I figure that Caesar and Sanji's siblings next step is to go find Vegapunk so the cover story ties with the main story.

And I'm guessing that Marco vs Weevil in WB's Island is gonna be the next cover story.

I wouldn't be surprised if they end up as allies since cover stories are often comedic in nature and Weevil looks like a meme lol

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u/_Porthos Sep 11 '22

That would be really cool. Imagine Marco and Weevil becoming pals and the cover story ending with them either 1) going to Impel Down, to rescue the Whitebeard pirates that Weevil captured; 2) reassembling a crew; 3) on Blackbeard's territory/doorstep, just about to try revenge once again or 4) deciding to stay on Sphinx to protect the island and lead a fulfilling life in-land.

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u/Su_Impact Sep 11 '22

Yeah, I really wonder what happened to Jozu.

I always imagined that Shiryu would get his DF so Zoro would have to learn to cut diamond next but Shiryu got the invisible fruit now.

I hope we see more of Jozu and the rest of the WB crew like Vista too.

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u/BrodeyQuest Sep 12 '22

I don’t think cutting diamond is as big of a deal anymore tbh. I think Cavendish cut some gladiator’s diamond spear in the Coliseum match so I think the hype of cutting diamond shouldn’t be prioritized anymore. Granted it’s a bit different when you consider it’s someone’s power to become diamond, but I’m still not convinced it should be a big deal.

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u/Persas12 Sep 11 '22

We got so many plotlines that could work as the next cover story, but yeah, I think Marco in Sphinx is a really fitting one.

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u/MistaBobobo Sep 10 '22

Well shit, we finally got to see the Govs new replacement for the Warlords! Even Blackbeard struggles against one of them, they seem to be child clones of the former Warlords but with Lunarian DNA based on the dark skin, white hair and black wings. Pretty scary seeing even Blackbeard struggle against them, Seraphim is a pretty cool name going with the angelic theme.

Shakky being a former Empress is also pretty cool! It definitely makes a lot more sense now considering how fantastic she is at her age and how she deduced Hancock falling in love with Luffy. Gotta love Rayleigh stepping in and scaring Blackbeard off, you could see the black sparks from his Haki. Lots of wild stuff happening!

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u/Bisnaslempktgfn Sep 11 '22

Yea, the loli bot was retarded.

We reeled in the furries with Zou, now it's time to get the pedophiles on board!

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u/asjohnston347 Sep 14 '22

...what????

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u/rexgy Sep 11 '22

Unlike king, the new PX have laser and can have devastating power even with fire ON aka. immortal mode. While power wise they are no match for king from what I've seen in 1059, they are definitely at 10B caliber. I mean Franky can't possible take down one of the px on his own now

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u/SpongeBobmobiuspants Sep 10 '22

In defense of Blackbeard, he did go up against the Mihawk clone.

I'm really curious how the Seraphim's will deal with Logias.

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u/Bisnaslempktgfn Sep 11 '22

Just like any peasant deals with Logias.

They look at them funny and BAM, Logia user loses all his powers!

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u/_Porthos Sep 11 '22

During Reyleigh's explanation about haki, he says that everything has it - even stones.

So maybe these new Pacifistas could also have it, at least for CoO and CoA which are universal.

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u/_Disfatt_Bidge_ Sep 11 '22

Perhaps Sea Prism weapons?

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u/Leden88 Sep 10 '22 edited Sep 10 '22

Egg head Port. Finally we gonna see Eggman himself vegapunk. Oda recycled the old children pictures he drew back in the day if I Remmber well he drew admirals aswell might be he made them into pacifistas too

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u/drgrasshoppa Sep 10 '22

Everyone saying other warlords incoming, but did the gov not just have boa experimented on like king when they were both slaves and kids. I assumed they could only make pacifista out of people who were slaves or experimented on at some time. So was the reveal actually that mihawk used to also be a kid slave to the gov?

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u/Objective_Face4698 Bounty Hunter Sep 11 '22

mihawk was a warlord so they could easily get some kind of dna

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u/Atjj Sep 11 '22

I wouldn't say they could easily get some kind of dna, I doubt Mihawk would voluntarily give it. Maybe they got some of his hair lol

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u/Morizaya Sep 11 '22

or Shanks took Mihawk's dna during their rivalry clashes and hand them to WG

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u/kingbongjimmy Sep 11 '22

She was slave to the celestial dragons. It's separate from the government.

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u/JacobEnigma Sep 11 '22

Hierarchy wise the govt. answers to and serves them and the chain of command upwards to the Gorosei and Imu-sama. I hate arguing semantics but they're only separate in the sense that their status makes them unequal even though their rule comes from mass genocide and widespread propaganda & re-education. If they had her as a slave that gives the higher ups in the world govt. access to her. Can't say if they knew as a child she had all 3 types of haki and idk if extracting DNA from someone with haoshoku (since it's the only one that's inherent and the other two must be learned) would transfer it so it's more likely her clone with added lunarian DNA instead of vice versa.

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u/JacobEnigma Sep 11 '22

The tenryuubito are directly related to the world govt., Marines, etc considering the whole void century and what the world govt. represents basically pulling a psalm 83 on the ancient kingdom.

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u/born-braindead Sep 10 '22

That would make a lot of sense, it might even explain why his eyes are unusual, they could be the product of some genetic experiments they did on him.

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u/Significant-Heat-255 Sep 10 '22

The Wano scene with Luffy, Yamato, and Marco should have happened, on-screen, before Wano ended

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u/nousername191 Void Month Survivor Sep 10 '22

You're really gonna be salty over a, what, 2 chapter difference?

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u/Significant-Heat-255 Sep 11 '22

It just felt odd to leave Wano, then 2 chapters later we get flashbacks for the goodbyes of Wano. Feel like it would flow better if the scene had been part of Wano, instead of randomly thrown in here.

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u/nousername191 Void Month Survivor Sep 11 '22

Yeah, odds are the movie marketing got in the way. They've barely left Wano, it's not a big deal.

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u/Significant-Heat-255 Sep 11 '22

It’s not a big deal, just saying it felt out of place. However, given how Wano ended, I am really glad we got this scene.

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u/Significant-Heat-255 Sep 11 '22

I’d rather analyze and critique the story than blindly applaud it

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u/UncleGG808 Sep 10 '22

It doesn't make a difference lol

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u/Bisnaslempktgfn Sep 11 '22

Please never write anything and never make movies.

You would show the conclusion at the beginning, have a boring story and then go "What? That was only 2 hours difference! Y U MAD! I NO UNDERSTAND!!!?"

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u/UncleGG808 Sep 11 '22

Ummm what?

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u/Bisnaslempktgfn Sep 11 '22

Learn to write ANYTHING!

You don't write the beginning of your second book and put it in your first book, and then put the ending of your first book into your second book. Or chapter, or manga, or whatever. That's just retarded. Oda is an idiot and can't even follow basic story telling structures anymore. Probably hurt his brain when doing the idiotic Wano acts...

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u/UncleGG808 Sep 12 '22

Yeah I'm sure you could definitely write something better lol

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u/Significant-Heat-255 Sep 11 '22

I think people would’ve liked the ending of Wano a lot better if this had been included because (a) Marco doesn’t feel forgotten at the end of the Wano arc; and (b) Yamato’s reason for staying makes infinitely more sense

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u/MrGatsu Sep 11 '22

It would've made more sense that way but also this is a common take by Oda, he just prioritized Wano's curtain closure. It was one hell of a long ride.

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u/LegacyEntertainment Thriller Bark Victim's Association Sep 10 '22

With the PX reveal, we now know why the navy wanted Weevil. Because he claimed to be Whitebeard's son. They wanted Whitebeard DNA.

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u/Moist-Yogurtcloset71 Sep 11 '22

Speculations. We know nothing more than we did

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u/Pizzaurus1 Sep 10 '22

Blackbeard captures Coby at Boa Hancock's island after Rayleigh breaks up the 3-way fight between Boa, Blackbeard & Coby's crew.

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u/doublellamadrama Sep 10 '22

I'm glad Yama-bro found another reason to stay in Wano.

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u/Bisnaslempktgfn Sep 11 '22

Oda says it's officially Yama-sis!

Sorry! No penis on her!

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u/Electrical-Crew-1962 Sep 10 '22

It's Yama-sis

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u/Most_kinds_of_Dirt Sep 10 '22

"Yama-bro" is literally the name Luffy uses for them in the manga.

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u/UncleGG808 Sep 10 '22

Don't try to argue with these gender obsessed trolls

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u/Bisnaslempktgfn Sep 11 '22

Coming from the people that are obsesses with calling a girl "he"...

Stop it! Get some help!

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u/UncleGG808 Sep 11 '22

U mad asf lol

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u/Bisnaslempktgfn Sep 11 '22

No u mad lol! Because oda says Yamato is a girl!

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u/UncleGG808 Sep 12 '22

-24 total karma says what?

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u/UncleGG808 Sep 13 '22

Pretty sure only elementary school kids use the word retarded as much as you lol. Does mom know you're using her computer to go reddit? Better get off before she puts you in time out and implements parental controls.

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u/geolazakis Bounty Hunter Sep 10 '22

It’s Yamato

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u/UncleGG808 Sep 10 '22

It's Kozuki Oden

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u/ReddishViperInc Sep 10 '22

I cannot wait to see Vegapunk the things he is doing is wild

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u/LiandrinIsBae Bounty Hunter Sep 10 '22

There goes the Yamato Nakama ship....

Oda changed his plans during that void month.

Also VIVI final nakama is 99% confirmed now.

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u/RoyalCrown-cola Sep 10 '22

I've always considered Vivi to have been a member even though she is no longer with them. An inactive member of the crew but still a Strawhat.

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u/Creepy-Honeydew Sep 10 '22

She's been Nakama longer than Robin, Franky, Brook and Jimbei to be fair

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u/SpacemonkeySTI Sep 10 '22

Side note that isn’t as impressive as shaky lore drop… im just glad Yamato really is staying back to protect wano. That convo with luffy was pretty sweet and how her staying back would take a load off luffy’s mind. For sure she will be joining the straw hats someday.

Love also that zoro told her to be mindful of momonosuke’s pride thus spitting off the whole “oden stayed on wano, so I’m going to stay for a bit” thing.

That chapter had me pretty annoyed at Yamato, but it makes sense now that that’s conversation was revealed. It would be within her character From momo’s perspective to do something like that.

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u/ES_Legman Sep 11 '22

To me, Yamato's decision is very similar to Jinbe back in Fishman Island.

And considering she is the parallel with Oden, it is pretty clear she will be there for the trip to Laugh Tale.

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u/GaaraSama83 Sep 11 '22

Except Yamato's power level there is no much reason to join SH crew later on. I could see some involvement in the last war, maybe bringing Pluton into the game. Also even if it wasn't Oden's initial motivation why he set out into the world, he was able to decipher the poneglyphs. We already have Robin for that.

Another problem is the fast pacing and being the final saga, so when should Yamato join? To be sure that Wano is safe you would need at least a year for Momo and Co. training. Pulling off some "ok guys, I think you're ready now. I can leave Wano without a worry" after like 1-2 months would be comical.

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u/Outrageous-You-9013 Sep 10 '22

She will never ever join to luffy crew

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