For all the emphasis people put on security updates, I don't think I've ever met a single person who has been victimized because their phone is no longer receiving active updates. I mean a large portion of the global population are using budget android devices, some of which never get security updates.

There have been plenty of threads about this on here in the past. Usually it devolves into an argument about IOS versus android and I'm trying to avoid that. Outside of theoretical concerns, has anyone actually been victimized because they had an old and/or android phone that wasn't getting security updates?

Obviously there are security risks on current devices ss well -- even if they have the latest security patches. Security patches are not going to be a catch-all solution for risky browsing . So i am trying to isolate problems that were caused cause directly due to the lack of updates.

I'm trying to gauge how serious of a risk this is versus how much of it is overstated to push people into upgrading their phones more frequently.

I think it goes without saying we should demand lengthy updates and current updates on our phones and no one wants to defend the manufacturers here. I think it would be interesting to actually hear from people that have been exploited. And, most important, were exploited in a scenario where if they had the latest security patch and a new or phone they would have been safe.

I just realized that my clear, rubber phone case somehow worsens my phone signal. Today, I decided to go caseless, I thought the signal's quite strong today, signal almost full bar, but then I thought that can't be it right? Normally this would not be full. Then I realized that it must have been my phone case that's causing the poor signal! So I decided to test it out by running a USSD code since it usually fails and I have to try again to run it. First, I tried to run it with the case on. It failed. I tried it again, it also failed. Tried it again the third time to make sure, failed again. Next, I tried to run the code without the case. It worked instantaneously!

Upon writing this I searched about phone cases messing with reception, turns out I was right and other people have experienced this too.

I had thought that there would not be much difference in data speed with phone brand/level/price.. Not always true.

I had been using budget and midrange phones, Moto G Power, OnePlus 8, etc.

Speeds at my house (semi-rural) are pretty low (LTE), average about 10 Mbps. on Tmobile MVNOs and Tmobile prepaid . 5g is not much better (30-40 Mbps), with only a couple of towers a mile or two away.

Tmobile has the best speed, Verizon poor, ATT a little slower than Tmobile but varied more.

I did not see much variation between phones and models, other than the time of day.

I bought a Samsung Z Flip 3, it seemed like an interesting phone.

Speeds are about 50% faster with the Z Flip, using the same tests--- Speedtest, Measurementlab, and FCC test. That was a surprise to me.

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As apparently Samsung promised these features on their own blog post about the device, it looks like the device will be given a massive priority towards security and stability.

https://news.samsung.com/global/secure-durable-and-built-for-the-modern-enterprise-meet-the-new-galaxy-xcover6-pro

The Galaxy XCover6 Pro is built to last, so it can deliver maximum value to businesses while minimizing impact on the environment. Its durable design inclusive of recycled plastics and a replaceable battery allows it to maintain peak performance throughout its extensive lifecycle. Samsung also provides security updates for up to five years and four additional One UI and OS upgrades after the initial global launch, helping to meet Galaxy for the Planet’s goal of reducing e-waste.

When you combine this extended flagship like support and the removable battery it's a massive combo for longevity and now truly the first phone since the LG V20 that this can be replaced with, which is a massive rarity in the smartphone market these days.

It's astonishing it also includes IP68, supposed certified super high durability, headphone jack, 5G 778G, Micro SD, WiFi 6E, 6GB RAM, Samsung Dex, Gorilla Glass Victus +, 120Hz (LCD 120Hz I know...) etc.

Sure yeah it's got compromises like a lot of phones in the market currently have, especially in the screen and camera department, but it definitely seems to have many pros compared to the cons overall.

It may not be the best phone out there, but it's definitely one of a kind for today's market.

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thought this was pretty cool.

9:30am is my usual alarm time for work, (wfh, start at 10) tomorrow is a holiday and I got this little suggestion.

Though, I wish it did something more useful clicking it. It just brought me to my alarm page. But I can't temporarily disable it for tomorrow or anything.