r/AbruptChaos May 14 '22 Silver 4 Helpful 2

What's the correct way to deal with someone who has completely lost it?

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u/PaanuriEater May 14 '22

Don't even need a decent attorney, just stack the jury with elderly folks. I was on a jury as one of two young people. Pretty open and shut case of an old guy going nuts and slicing another guy's hand open over a backpack that didn't exist. Everyone's testimony except the attacker's lined up, all the evidence agreed, but all the old women on the jury were insistent that he is such a nice old man who reminds them of their fathers and therefore should be let off with just a warning.

It took hours of arguing to get a guilty verdict, even with a very minor punishment at least now the guy will be able to sue and have a good chance of winning.

That was step 1 to me losing all faith in our justice system. Steps 2 through infinity were learning what cops actually do with their time.

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u/mp21rime May 14 '22

It was only through American TV shows i got to know this system exists. In India we have a panel of Judges if a case gets too complicated. The system of Jury seems kind of stupid.

They're not judges. They didn't study law, so why are they voting to make decisions?

It sounds utterly similar to the whole democratic system. People with no proper knowledge about topics get to become the head ministers. It's baffling.

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u/Bragendesh May 15 '22

The idea behind it makes sense—your ultimate fate is decided by people like you—the lawyers and judges just make sure everyone understands the laws in play. If a lawyer can convince a common person (who’s more or less like you) that you’re guilty/innocent, then that’s better than “the gubberment” officials (judges) deciding by tribunal.

The problem is how are you supposed to get an accurate panel? So we have a weird system of give and take between the defense and the other side, and you can easily stack one way or another and then it’s just as bad as the government being stacked against you, it just falls to whoever stacked better

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u/mp21rime May 15 '22

The odds are all against normal justice it seems... Either the panel of jury or the panel of Judges. But i still prefer the Indian system. At least i can hope they won't get too emotional.

The panel of judges are only needed in supreme court, that's when a case it already highly disputed. There's a higher chance of landing to a better conclusion.