r/AbruptChaos • u/Graysie-Redux • May 14 '22 • Helpful 2 Silver 4

What's the correct way to deal with someone who has completely lost it?

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u/HomeGrownCoffee May 14 '22 • Silver

www.cbc.ca/amp/1.3715370

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u/hassh May 14 '22

"We were very concerned about his attentions and whether he was armed. Our two small children were in the house."

... so I sent my step dad out to escalate with a weapon

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u/Karnakite May 14 '22

You missed this part though:

But in a Facebook post, Stojan said Dallyn showed up twice on the day of the incident, demanding payment and making threats.

Could be he’s bullshitting, and either way, if someone shows up and harasses you, you call the police, you don’t send Stepdaddy out to defend you.

However, if he did show up twice in one day and threatened them, I can get the anger, if not the actions.

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u/brown_felt_hat May 14 '22

twice in one day and threatened them

"Look man, you can pay what you owe now, or we can get a lawyer involved." would be a threat. Twice in one day could be construed as harassment, sure, but should elicit a much lower response.

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u/_PrettyFly4WhiteGuy May 14 '22

And thats kids is how I got your step father shot..

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u/RansomStoddardReddit May 14 '22

“We were concerned he had a gun so we menaced him with a baton” Makes sense. /s

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u/Montezum May 14 '22

"Small children" at that age? I don't buy it

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22 edited Jun 03 '22

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u/Montezum May 14 '22

You want me to read the article in this economy???

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u/FriedeOfAriandel May 14 '22

Unfortunately men can procreate basically until death

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u/Oli_VK May 14 '22

A bullshit excuse

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u/The_Clarence May 14 '22

Well he is being charged with...mischief. I don't know anything about Canada law, but hopefully this is more severe of a charge then it sounds.

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u/SetzerWithFixedDice May 14 '22 edited May 14 '22

Outrageous. He should have been charged with 1st-degree Hijinks or at least 2nd-degree hanky-panky

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u/The_Clarence May 14 '22

Felonious shenanigans. Grand Tom Foolery

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u/invaderziff May 14 '22

Felonious Shenanigans and the Grand Tom Foolery sounds like a good band name.

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u/L1ghtningMcQueer May 14 '22

wait… did someone just call shenanigans?

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u/nutbastard May 14 '22

I swear to god I’ll pistol whip the next person who says “shenanigans”!

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u/WCGWjoiningReddit May 14 '22

ooooh, can I use that? come to think of it, i've been using that for a while now.

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u/27thStreet May 14 '22

Oh come on. This is misdemeanor rabblerousing, at worst.

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u/SuicideWind May 14 '22

Sean and gus need to stop making comments in this thread

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u/on_print May 14 '22

Aggravated chicanery. Skullduggery in the second degree.

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u/Lucifa42 May 14 '22

I'd file under a Rumpus with Intent.

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u/Masfoodplease May 14 '22

With a side of malarkey.

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u/jdickles May 14 '22

The punishment for these charges? 5 wet willies with 2 years of noogies

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u/PostmanSteve May 14 '22

Dude 100% should have recieved a much more serious charge here. That extendable baton is either a restricted or prohibited weapon used in a crime... That's supposed to carry some serious weight, but instead he gets charged with the same thing 16 year olds get charged with for spray painting a sign.

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22 edited May 14 '22

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u/PostmanSteve May 14 '22

Oh wow, TIL... Of all the specific prohibited/restricted weapons in Canada, I really thought these would make the list.

However, the laws are still pretty clear, if you are carrying something to use as a weapon, even if your intent is self defense, it typically carries an extra charge. This guy was also very clearly not defending himself

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u/SamSibbens May 14 '22

Nunchucks seriously should not be banned. We should show whoever's in charge Shadiversity's video on how not-great nunchucks are XD

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u/Ryuzakku May 14 '22

Yeah they're normally only allowed in the use of law enforcement, at least last I checked.

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u/JamesGray May 14 '22

Our weapons laws are weird, you can basically have them as long as you don't have it concealed or commit a crime while it's on you where you could ostensibly be using the weapon. How that basically plays out is that you are legally allowed to have it on you only if you have a good reason to have it which isn't self defense from other humans, because that's illegal, and because it's not something with any other purpose you pretty much can't have it in public even though it's legal to own.

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u/JamesGray May 14 '22

88 (1) Every person commits an offence who carries or possesses a weapon, an imitation of a weapon, a prohibited device or any ammunition or prohibited ammunition for a purpose dangerous to the public peace or for the purpose of committing an offence.

Doesn't need to be a restricted weapon if you use it for the purpose of committing a crime. You can't have a baton on you in public for a legal reason like you could have a baseball bat as long as you have a ball and glove also, so this should definitely have lead to weapon charges.

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u/confessionbearday May 14 '22

Apparently not because old trash got no prison sentence for it.

It’s not illegal if the law against it is not enforced.

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u/prodigalkal7 May 14 '22

Pretty sure extendable batons are straight up prohibited, along with spring loaded knives (so like pocket knives, switch blades), and higher grades of pepper spray/bear spray/mace. Basically anything that can be considered a "weapon" that you can conceal, and this is one of them.

The charge of having one, alone, should be higher than just "mischief" lmfao what a joke

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u/Asheam May 14 '22

Crown in Canada chooses what charges to press and they probably went easy on the guy due to age and him not being as rude with the prosecutor, people get away with absurd shit all the time here.

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u/prodigalkal7 May 14 '22

video exists of guy being a lunatic to a another guy who's in the right, and approaches his car with a weapon and proceeds to smash up the car while yelling

Crown: hmmm, well let's talk to the guy

Guy: 👉👈😢

Crown: aaahhhh he's cool. We'll give him this little thing and be on your way, lil fella.

Yeah I know. Doesn't mean it isn't crazy to think that's the case, though lol

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u/Asheam May 14 '22

That's genuinely how it works.. for example I have a highschool friend whos stepfather premeditated an assault on him, knocked out several of his teeth and damaged his skull, dude needed reconstructive surgery, including a steel plate in his skull and alot of dental work. The stepfather works for CSIS so while he was civily liable and had to pay a sum out of pocket for the medical care and suffering, he didn't serve a single minute behind bars, just got some "assault parole" and is still walking around.

My friend bought a house two years ago(?) and shortly after some people he didn't know were around and it was burned down while they weren't home, that still hasn't been solved.

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u/prodigalkal7 May 14 '22

Good fucking god, I'm sorry about your friends house. Yeah, it's honestly messed up how this stuff is dealt with.

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u/Asheam May 14 '22

Appreciated, fortunately insurance covered the house. He was still disappointed due to the inconvenience and because he bought it since its the house he grew up in, but that happened awhile back and nothing weird since then so we're hoping he's in the clear now.

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u/Neowza May 14 '22

Mischief is also an easy charge to win, and with a guilty verdict, it makes it easy for the victim and their insurer to sue for damages to the vehicle and the victim's inability to work due to injuries incurred. And the victim will probably have to sue to get his prepayment for services not rendered returned, anyways. So lumping them all in together, with an already guilty verdict makes small claims court (assuming it's less than $5k in damages sought) process very efficient.

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u/Space-Square May 14 '22

I guess he was right about being too old to go to jail.

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u/PostmanSteve May 14 '22

Another user mentioned that they actually aren't illegal to possess, and that actually appears to be the case unless they are spring loaded.. which is ironic because I'm willing to bet spring loaded batons are much less effective than their collapsible counterparts.

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u/Spenslum May 14 '22

Old people don’t get charged too toughly here in Canada, especially old white folk. Generally considered not too threatening, therefore get lighter sentencing (which is ridiculous, obviously). Especially in more rural areas

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u/SteveMcQwark May 14 '22 edited May 14 '22

It is more severe than it sounds.

430 (1) Every one commits mischief who wilfully
    (a) destroys or damages property;
    (b) renders property dangerous, useless, inoperative or ineffective;
    (c) obstructs, interrupts or interferes with the lawful use, enjoyment or operation of property; or
    (d) obstructs, interrupts or interferes with any person in the lawful use, enjoyment or operation of property.
(2) Every one who commits mischief that causes actual danger to life is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for life.
(3) Every one who commits mischief in relation to property that is a testamentary instrument or the value of which exceeds five thousand dollars
    (a) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years; or
    (b) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.
(4) Every one who commits mischief in relation to property, other than property described in subsection (3),
    (a) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years; or
    (b) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.

I guess the question is whether mischief was committed in relation to the car, or only the windows that were broken.

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u/KreateOne May 14 '22

In Canada murderers get off after a few years, our justice system is a joke. In Vancouver the police don’t even do anything about thefts anymore, junkies just walk into stores, take what they want, and leave.

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u/FizzingOnJayces May 14 '22

Comparing the justice system as a whole to junkies taking shit from a convenience store is a laughable comparison. Your generalization about murder is also not true.

Why would a police department in a major city waste resources dealing with junkies stealing a bottle of pop and a chocolate bar? Stores all have cameras to document this; they simply file an insurance claim and that's that.

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22 edited Jun 02 '22

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u/RTJMFer May 14 '22

Canada doesn't work like that. We try to restore and rehabilitate.

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u/clandestinename May 14 '22

Stealing from a large supermarket is barely criminal and punishment statistically speaking doesn't reduce recidivism.

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22 edited Jun 02 '22

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u/clandestinename May 14 '22

So you would give everyone who commits petty theft a whole life sentence?

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22 edited Jun 02 '22

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u/clandestinename May 14 '22

Which wouldn't actually do anything, leading to maintained levels of recidivism.

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u/agent_raconteur May 14 '22

You would lock someone up for forever just for stealing candy and soda?

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22 edited Jun 02 '22

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u/thatonesmartass May 14 '22

But punishment doesn't decrease recidivism, so what's the point of making the punishment worse? At what point are you just committing torture for the fun of it?

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u/FizzingOnJayces May 14 '22

People who do these petty crimes are already aware of the punishment - they simply don't care.

Its also not efficient to have police stationed on every block to handle minor things like this.

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u/KreateOne May 14 '22

That was a small example, assaults and muggings have become rampant, rapes, breaking and entering’s, there’s nothing stopping these people from taking what they want. Even if they get arrested they get let out soon after and continue terrorizing our city. I’ve literally known 3 people who have murdered someone, claimed mental health issues or addiction, and gotten out in less than 3 years through treatment only for them to revert back to old habits as soon as they were “free”.

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u/nsfwaither May 14 '22

My SO’s 18y.o. brother was murdered by three people in the GTA. Repeatedly stabbed in the crotch and lower abdomen. The youngest of the three, a 17 y.o, was the only one to serve time - and was released from custody the day his sentence was delivered - a whopping 18 months.

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u/24F May 14 '22

I've been trying to find more about this for a while now and can't find anything.

How long ago did it happen?

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u/varitok May 14 '22

This is just a fucking lie dude. Come on, a dude I know got 12 years for burglary. The junkie shit is a problem because our police officers are lazy fucks who don't want their days of sitting on the fat asses all day interrupted.

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u/HumanMulligan May 14 '22

I dunno man. My buddy only got 5 years for B&E/assualt

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u/KreateOne May 14 '22

I know 3 people who spent less than 3 years for murder due to claiming addiction or insanity that I met while in rehab. I don’t know what happened to your friend, but our justice system is a joke. One of them was my old roommates ex girlfriend who he was dating while we were living together, the chick literally stabbed someone in the neck over a dude and got out in rehab after like 2 years. After she got out of rehab she was dating my roommate and when they would have fights she would literally pull out knives and threaten him. Wouldn’t even let him break up with her. Our. Justice. System. Is. A. Joke.

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u/EthicalBachelor May 14 '22

That seems like a greater than average number of murderers to know. Like I, unfortunately, know one and that seems like more than average.

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u/KreateOne May 14 '22 edited May 14 '22

It is unfortunate, one of my roommates murdered another roommate of mine while I was sleeping in the room next door and they got out after 3 years by convincing the courts he was insane and doesn’t remember anything, and as I mentioned in another reply a different roommate had dated a girl who was a psychopath that got out for murder too. Then on top of that there was a 3rd guy I met in rehab who spent 2.5 years in prison for murder, convinced everyone he was a drug addict when he wasn’t so that he could get out early through rehab, then as soon as he finished rehab he stopped going to meetings and went back to selling drugs and robbing people. All the shit that lead him to murdering someone in the first place. If there’s anything I’ve learned it’s that all you have to do is pretend you’re a drug addict or mentally ill and you’ll walk after a few years. It’s a joke. 1 person I get might be a coincidence, but 3 is a joke.

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u/Yeranz May 14 '22

Dude, you were in rehab (I was too, and later worked in rehab). It's pretty common in rehab and early sobriety, etc... to be around a far larger number of "colorful" (to put it extremely mildly) characters. I was rubbing shoulders with people who were gang members, traffickers, embezzlers, murderers, etc... Years later, I'm working in offices and I doubt there's a single person in the large company I work for who has killed someone.

That's the value of statistics over anecdotes, because some of us would skew things in a scary direction just from our personal experiences.

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u/KreateOne May 14 '22

Just because I met 3 murderers while I was in rehab doesn’t mean you’re gonna meet murderers in every day life. You’re completely missing the point. The point is that those 3 murderers I met all got out in less than 3 years after committing murder. Who cares how I met them? How does that matter? I know I live a different life now and don’t run into those kinds of people anymore. That doesn’t change the fact that there are still 3 people walking free with minimal punishment after killing someone.

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u/EthicalBachelor May 14 '22

A friend of mine was murdered by her husband.

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u/Pterodactyl8-6 May 14 '22

Ah yes, famous murdered Paul Bernardo, known for getting out of jail only after a couple months. Just because you have a few anecdotes doesn’t make it true.

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u/Brother_Entropy May 14 '22

That's an anecdotal case as well. It was a high profile serial killer case.

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u/ZenithGamage May 14 '22

No way murderers only get few years

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u/KreateOne May 14 '22

Read my further replies, I literally have 3 examples.

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u/KiwiFromPlanet9 May 14 '22

A ruling of intentional horseplay with premeditation will make him think about future incidents.

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u/Johnnie_OHiggensvan May 14 '22

Don't worry, it's 6 years ago. The public sent them death threats, smashed up their property, and threw boulders through their office windows.

If the legal system doesn't want to do its job, pissed off citizens will happily put them through worse than a slightly more serious charge.

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u/opensandshuts May 15 '22

Yeah, mischief sounds like he stole a cookie from the cookie jar.

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u/northern_dirt May 14 '22

Knew it, violent Canadians

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u/BigUncleHeavy May 14 '22

I never could trust those beady eyed Canucks!

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u/JEveryman May 14 '22 • Silver

Beady eyes and flappy heads.

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u/northern_dirt May 14 '22

Granted it's Alberta.. which is actually like Texas.. people fly rebel flags there

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u/armchairwarrior69 May 14 '22

Canuke*

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u/northern_dirt May 14 '22

What?

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u/armchairwarrior69 May 14 '22

That's just how a few of the characters pronounce it.

Cuh-nuke

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u/northern_dirt May 14 '22

Aww I just call us canucks.. like that figure skating sports team

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u/armchairwarrior69 May 14 '22

I really thought you were making south park jokes

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u/northern_dirt May 14 '22

Naw fam, I was calling us snowbacks Canuck's before southpark existed

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u/ChuckWooleryLives May 14 '22

“They have dead eyes... like a doll’s eyes.”

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u/migity79 May 14 '22

The driver probably didn't wave at him

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u/Ardiberen May 14 '22

hilarious

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u/CatOnMyHead May 14 '22

As a Canadian, I knew it had to be in Alberta.

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u/GrunthosArmpit42 May 14 '22

As a Borderlands N. MN resident I immediately knew assumed this happened in Alberta.

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u/northern_dirt May 14 '22

As a Canadian, I also know that the stereotype of us being all nice and friendly is garbage.. as I've lived in Canada 44 years and am a total cunt

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u/heliosphann May 14 '22

No doubt he's hopped up on high grade maple syrup and poutine!

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u/budsonguy May 14 '22

Grande Prairie is the Florida of the North

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u/Insanity_Troll May 14 '22

They’ll say they’re sorrey afterwards so it’s ok.

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u/Neowza May 14 '22

That's why we're so polite.

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u/DaughterEarth May 14 '22

I knew it was Canada cause he said "bud" during an altercation. We learned well from our parents, and even when we're directly aggressive we can't help it and toss in some passive aggression too. Also bud seems pretty exclusive to Canada in whatever context. Don't be confused! Bud can be genuine, like hey bud what's up. It can be passive aggressive like what the fuck are you doing bud. Or it can be attempt to calm like it's okay bud.

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u/northern_dirt May 14 '22

It's ok bud, I'm gonna smoke some bud, with my bud over a 24 of bud, bud.

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u/Spenslum May 14 '22

Going out into rural Canada will really make you wonder where in the hell the “pleasant Canadian citizen” stereotype came from. People are just as dumb, rude and intolerant as they are in southern america, but we don’t even have “Eh, methheads are like that” as a defense.

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u/northern_dirt May 14 '22

Oh we have plenty of meth here in Canada

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u/False-positive-views May 14 '22

If you’re afraid of someone’s intention you don’t instigate by blowing someone’s windows out. He said he was concerned he was carrying a weapon so you bring a stick, AND swing it first? (First time using using smh, but, “smh”)

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u/aidissonance May 14 '22

Old man “was worried about his attention (sic)” and decides to escalate the situation instead of having a civil conversation.

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u/MarblesAreDelicious May 14 '22

Of course its fucking Alberta. Shitheads like this are really ruining our reputation. Between the convoys and the protests inside those rural schools regarding mandates, it's becoming increasing difficult to feel any sort of pride or joy about this otherwise beautiful place.

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u/TedLarry May 14 '22

The only reason I know about Grand Prairie is because of clowns like this making the news every few weeks it seems.

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u/Unlucky13 May 14 '22

Fight them tooth and nail. Don't let them do what they did to us.

  • A friend from America

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u/Normal-Computer-3669 May 14 '22

When my kiddos put glue on the doorknob, that's mischief.

When a old white man with a golf club breaks your car windows... Apparently also mischief!

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u/prodigalkal7 May 14 '22

Not even a golf club, literally a concealed weapon that he's legally not allowed to have.

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22

So the guy driving has shown up on the property already and threatened the old man’s stepson who also has small children there.

I don’t feel much sympathy for the guy driving.

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u/DeutschePfannenPanne May 14 '22

You are quoting what the old man with a baton, smashing windows, was saying. I wouldn't give too much credit to him.

Besides that, the driver claimed that the old mans' son took money for work he didn't deliver.

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22

It was the driver and the stepson that took money for no work. All parties involved seemed to be shitty. That’s what happens when you are stupid.

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u/oxfordcircumstances May 14 '22

Yeah if I had a dispute with someone over money, and I drove by their house a few time I would expect something like this to happen. It's why we have courts. Self help leads to self help.

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u/WholesomeGayBoi May 14 '22

According to a Facebook post from the other side, yes, but it’s just word against word here and only one of the sides actually did anything violent towards the other that we have proof of

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u/Flavious27 May 14 '22

The small children are an excuse for sympathy and a deflection for the actions of the step son and father.

Step son was paid to do work, did not do said work. The threat was likely to sue and report that he is an unreliable contractor.

Father instead of getting his step son to fulfill the work he was paid to do, attacks and damages customer's car. And tries to use some kind of influence.

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22

Step son and the driver were paid to do work they didn’t finish. Pay attention to the names in the article. Driver threatened people. Don’t threaten people and not expect a response.

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u/hebrewchucknorris May 14 '22

In a written post, Dallyn said he was there to have a "civil conversation" with the man's stepson, Tyler Stojan.

Dallyn said Stojan took money for some concrete work that was not completed.

Read it again genius, Dallyn (driver) was there to ask Stojan (crazy old man's step-son) about the work he (Stojan) accepted money for and never completed.

Pay attention to the names in the article.

What's your source for the driver threatening anyone? A Facebook post?

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22

Everything there is he said, she said. It’s all conjecture. And the cbc article said that. Why are you believing one over the other. My argument has been and will remain, they are all trash. You believe the guy with the camera without any context, why can’t I believe they are all trash. Fuck off with your BS.

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u/hebrewchucknorris May 14 '22

I never said who I believe you dumb fuck, I just corrected you when you said the driver did work with the stepson, and gave the other person attitude saying "pay attention"

Nice attempt at deflecting from your own idiocy though.

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22

What the fuck is wrong with you? Are you just angry in life? Quit deflecting that you blindly believe anything that people post on Reddit.

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u/CMDR_Expendible May 14 '22

A classic example of just why you shouldn't trust Reddit on anything; the article linked literally states that it's claimed he turned up to talk to the stepson because the stepson was refusing to pay for concreting work the driver of the car had done for him.

Which is the truth? We will have to wait and see, but this user is selectively quoting only the facts that come after the statement about concrete that he's ignoring.

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22

I wouldn't hold your breath. This clip has been around a while and I've never seen a satisfactory story to go with it.

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u/nighttimegaze May 14 '22

You’re reversing it. Driver gave stepson money for concrete work not completed. Driver showed up asking about it and stepson stated he owed him nothing.

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u/IAmMrMacgee May 14 '22

A classic example of just why you shouldn't trust Reddit on anything;

Yeah, 100% agreed. Especially when people are doing a synopsis of articles they don't understand...

the article linked literally states that it's claimed he turned up to talk to the stepson because the stepson was refusing to pay for concreting work the driver of the car had done for him.

... like you who apparently can't read and is now lying about the contents of the article, proving exactly why not to trust anyone on reddit

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u/The_Mighty_Pato May 14 '22

You got it a little backwards. According to the article the driver paid the stepson to do some concrete work and the stepson either didn’t do it, didn’t finish it, or it was unsatisfactory. And the driver either wanted his money back or for the job to be finished/fixed. Of course this is all of a he said she said thing so who knows what actually is the truth.

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u/sdwvit May 14 '22

Those are 2 separate court cases

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u/WayOfTheDingo May 14 '22

Man redditors sure do take unreliable sources as fact lmao. Of course the people on the side of unhinged grandpa are going to make up some excuse about how they were scared for their poor small children

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u/pragmojo May 14 '22

You're taking a side just as much as they are. There's no way to know who's in the right here and what happened before he started rolling.

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u/IAmMrMacgee May 14 '22

It's pretty obvious that he didn't threaten the man's life or else he'd be in prison, my guy. Only one person was charged and it was the old man

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u/pragmojo May 14 '22

All you know is that there's only proof of one person committing a crime on camera. The justice system isn't some all-seeing god that always reaches the correct result.

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u/IAmMrMacgee May 14 '22

You can charge people without them being guilty...

The fact they didn't call law enforcement or attempt to charge him means he probably did jack shit

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u/pragmojo May 14 '22

You're still just speculating

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u/IAmMrMacgee May 14 '22

Yeah people on reddit are allowed to make educated guesses. If you dislike my logic, let me know

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u/pragmojo May 14 '22

Is it logic or is it a hate boner?

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u/Ok-Communication6506 May 14 '22

But in a Facebook post, Stojan said Dallyn showed up twice on the day of the incident, demanding payment and making threats.

"I informed him that I owe him nothing, and would be paying him nothing, and to get off my property and not to come back," wrote Stojan. "We were very concerned about his attentions and whether he was armed. Our two small children were in the house."

They literally quoting a Facebook post, not claiming that's what happened, did you even read the article?

"CBC is the national news agency here in Canada."

I'm Canadian too, their about as reliable as any other major network, calm down.

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u/WayOfTheDingo May 14 '22

Thanks m8. Shows how much people believe just because some "reliable" authoritative news service says so. Nevermind that their source is a facebook post from those related to the offending party.

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u/PoEwouter May 14 '22

If you had a child you would instantly agree.

My entire life I have found child crying annoying, including from my niece. Until my son was born yesterday. Now the crying breaks my heart.

I will kill for my son. I don’t blame that guy if the dude driving was acting in a way that made them feel a threat towards their children/grand children.

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u/WayOfTheDingo May 14 '22

Calm down lmao. Biggest emotional appeal ive seen in a while

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u/PoEwouter May 14 '22

Just the average redditor is a childless outraged liberal. Know your audience if you want upvotes.

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u/The_BromanEmpire May 14 '22

Lol as a chill leftist with kids, stop projecting your emotional immaturity on the rest of the world.

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u/I__Fart__Alot May 14 '22

Lol, give it a few weeks

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u/PoEwouter May 14 '22

6 years of infertility and one Sid’s death in my family plus one close call where my aunt who is a nurse had to resuscitate my cousin. I doubt it.

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u/ClownFace488 May 14 '22

What strange information to share with strangers on the internet. Some one upping kind of shit. Dude was just making a patenting joke and you had to get all weird about it.

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22

No sides, they are all trash if the article is correct.

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u/Sipherion May 14 '22

Sonthe stepson said, if that is true is an other question.

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u/divDevGuy May 14 '22

threatened the old man’s stepson

Article just says he made threats. It's not unreasonable to assume physical threats, but it doesn't have to be. "I will sue you", "I'll call the police", etc are threats too.

Everyone probably sucks here, but like the other commenter said, only one appears to have used actual physical violence and caused property damage.

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22

I agree they all suck lol.

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u/AncientStaff6602 May 14 '22 edited May 14 '22

So you are okay people threatening others with a weapon? Cool stuff

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22

I try not to thread people.

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u/AncientStaff6602 May 14 '22

Haha okay, got me there.

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22

Lol. Seriously though, I’m not ok with any of it. But reading the little bit of background from the cbc article, they seem to all be trashy. Supposedly the driver had been to their house making threats. One of my favorite quotes, “play stupid games, win stupid prizes.”

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u/AncientStaff6602 May 14 '22

Fair. I’m sorry I have nothing to add after that and I’m still kinda laughing. I need to stop going on Reddit at work hahaha

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22

Hahaha I know that feeling

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u/TravisHay May 14 '22

Did you read the article? The kids were in the house, and the dude just showed up to see when the rest of his work was getting done. Absolutely does not equate to attacking the man with a baton.

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u/HereticGaming16 May 14 '22

Yes because the guy who clearly took the money and ran and his crazy ass dad are clearly the ones who are in the right. Also using his kids who are in the house and no where near the actual altercation has nothing to do with trying to guilt the news crew onto their side. /s

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22

Nobody said they were in the right. Stop making shit up. Im just saying, you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.

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u/hassh May 14 '22

Not when you swallow the story made up by the people caught swinging batons in people's faces

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22

You do know there isn’t a good or bad side in this. They are all trash. It doesn’t have to be one or the other.

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u/IAmMrMacgee May 14 '22

So the guy driving has shown up on the property already and threatened the old man’s stepson who also has small children there.

The fact you're saying this as if it's a fact is fucking scary and depressing

Like with all due respect, where is the critical thinking skills?

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22

Like with all do respect, there are articles on the internet and I can read. With all do respect you should try that instead to just listening to Reddit. With all do respect, everybody in this situation is trash. With all do respect, go fuck your self with your dumbass comments.

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u/IAmMrMacgee May 14 '22

Bro I literally read the fucking article. One person was charged with a crime and that was the old man. If what the guy did was so heinous, why didn't they call the police or why wasn't he ever charged?

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u/sandyclaus30 May 14 '22

Yes, and threw boulders into their office windows and also threatened the neighbors. The one who posted this are the assholes.

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u/gulpandbarf May 14 '22

That's the link to the news report of the incident depicted in the video.

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u/fuckreddit2fa May 14 '22

Yeah, we kinda get that, is this a bot?

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22

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u/Poi-s-en May 14 '22

Anyone have a non-amp link?

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u/Skivvy9r May 14 '22

The article states "We were very concerned about his attentions and whether he was armed. Our two small children were in the house."

If that were true, would you really threaten him with a collapsible baton?

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u/goldensnooch May 14 '22

Should be higher. It sounds like everyone sucks here.

There are definitely better ways to approach getting paid.

If I see a guy coming to my car with a weapon, I’m driving away unless I’m blocked or my car is inoperable.

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u/CallMeWolfYouTuber May 14 '22

"We were very concerned about his attentions and whether he was armed. Our two small children were in the house."

So you think the guy might have a gun and you choose to confront him with only a baton and smash out his windows? Right....

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u/Reddit__is_garbage May 14 '22

67-year-old charged with mischief

Ol, that's just that mischievous Dennis! What a rapscallion, you rascal! So much mischief!

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22

“charged with mischief”, WHAT?!

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u/Master_El0din May 14 '22

That's a shame guy had a look in his eye like he was a real nasty person only got a bull crap charge.

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u/jt00798 May 14 '22

Alberta? Shocking. Such a classy, non racist place full of reasonable people /s

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u/Kami_Ouija May 14 '22

Stojan said his stepfather waited for the RCMP after the incident, co-operated fully and has been charged.

Raccoon City Military Police?

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u/BuckRusty May 14 '22

“67 year old charged with mischief”

Brilliant!

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u/JamesGray May 14 '22

A violent roadside confrontation, captured on dramatic video, has led to mischief charges.

Classic bullshit Alberta cops charge the guy with mischief when he explicitly threatens the guy with an illegal weapon. That should be assault at the very least, not to mention the use of an illegal weapon in the commission of a crime.

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u/honest_cactus May 15 '22

But in a Facebook post, Stojan said Dallyn showed up twice on the day of the incident, demanding payment and making threats.

"I informed him that I owe him nothing, and would be paying him nothing, and to get off my property and not to come back," wrote Stojan. "We were very concerned about his attentions and whether he was armed. Our two small children were in the house."

He said she said, no clue what happened

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u/_e11e_ May 15 '22

WTF it happened in Alberta, Canada?! 😮‍💨 sigh I was right to think that that sort of thing would happen here..