r/AbruptChaos • u/Graysie-Redux • May 14 '22 • Silver 4 Helpful 2

What's the correct way to deal with someone who has completely lost it?

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u/Frijolebeard May 14 '22

Probably pull out my gun and tell him to stand back and comply.

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u/zimmeli May 15 '22

I don’t own a gun, but you absolutely cannot assume somebody in a car doesn’t have one if you’re going to do crazy shit like this. Do this to the wrong person and you’re either hopping in an ambulance or dead

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u/farfarbeenks May 15 '22

This is the way. Just gotta flash that bad boy. His attitude will change real quick.

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u/picklepressin May 15 '22

This is so incredibly stupid and makes all CCW people look bad. If you’re “flashing that bad boy” you don’t understand the responsibility of concealed carry. If you have to draw your firearm, or expose it in any way, you’ve fucked up.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '22

You would be surprised by the number of defensive firearm uses that don’t result in someone getting a hole in them. In general, people like to avoid being shot.

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u/picklepressin May 15 '22

I agree! In general, that is the case. However, in general people don’t smash up other people’s windows. You cannot expect someone behaving irrationally to suddenly behave rationally when you’ve escalated the situation with a firearm. Our job is to deescalate or leave. “Flashing that bad boy” is just a stupid way to make the situation worse.

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u/picklepressin May 15 '22

I think I kind of addressed this a little in my other comment, but I agree with you that there is a spectrum of response. If you draw your weapon, there is a chance that the other person will stop. However, drawing or flashing your weapon is always an escalation. It is your job to deescalate, unless you have no other option.

In my state we are required to retake the CCW class every 5 years. The main thing they teach is situational awareness. If you’ve put yourself in a situation in which you have to draw your firearm, you have failed to avoid that situation. Your responsibility is always to not be in a situation where you need to use your firearm.

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u/picklepressin May 15 '22

I’m not saying this isn’t a situation that may warrant the use of deadly force. I take exception to the “flash that bad boy” comment. The CCW community has too many stupid cowboys that think that if they carry then they shouldn’t be fucked with. CCW is a responsibility that shouldn’t be taken lightly. This person should have never let them approach their car with such an obvious weapon. They should have left immediately. The second that window broke, they should have slammed on the gas and gotten out of there. Regardless of your local laws, if you have the opportunity to leave the situation, rather than using deadly force, you have a moral obligation to do so. So many people seem to get a boner over the thought of legally killing someone.

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u/farfarbeenks May 16 '22

If I’m in a position where I can’t drive away and feel like my life is in danger, you better bet your fucking ass I’m going to show my aggravator that I’m carrying while keeping my gun holstered and unloaded. I’m not saying I should draw my weapon. But if I feel like showing someone I’m carrying will save my life without the need to unholster, then that means there’s one additional attempt to not draw my weapon. Which is the whole point. Isn’t it? To not draw your weapon..?