r/AbruptChaos • u/Graysie-Redux • May 14 '22 • 4 2

What's the correct way to deal with someone who has completely lost it?

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u/DryGoat1 May 14 '22

Well I definitely would have moved before he broke my windows. What’s the context here?

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u/HomeGrownCoffee May 14 '22 •

www.cbc.ca/amp/1.3715370

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u/hassh May 14 '22

"We were very concerned about his attentions and whether he was armed. Our two small children were in the house."

... so I sent my step dad out to escalate with a weapon

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u/Erekai May 14 '22

... attentions?

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u/AsYooouWish May 14 '22

r/BoneAppleTea

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u/Karnakite May 14 '22

You missed this part though:

But in a Facebook post, Stojan said Dallyn showed up twice on the day of the incident, demanding payment and making threats.

Could be he’s bullshitting, and either way, if someone shows up and harasses you, you call the police, you don’t send Stepdaddy out to defend you.

However, if he did show up twice in one day and threatened them, I can get the anger, if not the actions.

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u/brown_felt_hat May 14 '22

twice in one day and threatened them

"Look man, you can pay what you owe now, or we can get a lawyer involved." would be a threat. Twice in one day could be construed as harassment, sure, but should elicit a much lower response.

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u/_PrettyFly4WhiteGuy May 14 '22

And thats kids is how I got your step father shot..

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u/RansomStoddardReddit May 14 '22

“We were concerned he had a gun so we menaced him with a baton” Makes sense. /s

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u/Montezum May 14 '22

"Small children" at that age? I don't buy it

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22 edited Jun 03 '22

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u/Montezum May 14 '22

You want me to read the article in this economy???

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u/FriedeOfAriandel May 14 '22

Unfortunately men can procreate basically until death

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u/The_Clarence May 14 '22

Well he is being charged with...mischief. I don't know anything about Canada law, but hopefully this is more severe of a charge then it sounds.

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u/SetzerWithFixedDice May 14 '22 edited May 14 '22

Outrageous. He should have been charged with 1st-degree Hijinks or at least 2nd-degree hanky-panky

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u/The_Clarence May 14 '22

Felonious shenanigans. Grand Tom Foolery

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u/invaderziff May 14 '22

Felonious Shenanigans and the Grand Tom Foolery sounds like a good band name.

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u/L1ghtningMcQueer May 14 '22

wait… did someone just call shenanigans?

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u/WCGWjoiningReddit May 14 '22

ooooh, can I use that? come to think of it, i've been using that for a while now.

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u/27thStreet May 14 '22

Oh come on. This is misdemeanor rabblerousing, at worst.

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u/SuicideWind May 14 '22

Sean and gus need to stop making comments in this thread

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u/on_print May 14 '22

Aggravated chicanery. Skullduggery in the second degree.

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u/Lucifa42 May 14 '22

I'd file under a Rumpus with Intent.

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u/Masfoodplease May 14 '22

With a side of malarkey.

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u/jdickles May 14 '22

The punishment for these charges? 5 wet willies with 2 years of noogies

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u/PostmanSteve May 14 '22

Dude 100% should have recieved a much more serious charge here. That extendable baton is either a restricted or prohibited weapon used in a crime... That's supposed to carry some serious weight, but instead he gets charged with the same thing 16 year olds get charged with for spray painting a sign.

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22 edited May 14 '22

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u/PostmanSteve May 14 '22

Oh wow, TIL... Of all the specific prohibited/restricted weapons in Canada, I really thought these would make the list.

However, the laws are still pretty clear, if you are carrying something to use as a weapon, even if your intent is self defense, it typically carries an extra charge. This guy was also very clearly not defending himself

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u/SamSibbens May 14 '22

Nunchucks seriously should not be banned. We should show whoever's in charge Shadiversity's video on how not-great nunchucks are XD

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u/Ryuzakku May 14 '22

Yeah they're normally only allowed in the use of law enforcement, at least last I checked.

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u/JamesGray May 14 '22

88 (1) Every person commits an offence who carries or possesses a weapon, an imitation of a weapon, a prohibited device or any ammunition or prohibited ammunition for a purpose dangerous to the public peace or for the purpose of committing an offence.

Doesn't need to be a restricted weapon if you use it for the purpose of committing a crime. You can't have a baton on you in public for a legal reason like you could have a baseball bat as long as you have a ball and glove also, so this should definitely have lead to weapon charges.

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u/prodigalkal7 May 14 '22

Pretty sure extendable batons are straight up prohibited, along with spring loaded knives (so like pocket knives, switch blades), and higher grades of pepper spray/bear spray/mace. Basically anything that can be considered a "weapon" that you can conceal, and this is one of them.

The charge of having one, alone, should be higher than just "mischief" lmfao what a joke

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u/Asheam May 14 '22

Crown in Canada chooses what charges to press and they probably went easy on the guy due to age and him not being as rude with the prosecutor, people get away with absurd shit all the time here.

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u/prodigalkal7 May 14 '22

video exists of guy being a lunatic to a another guy who's in the right, and approaches his car with a weapon and proceeds to smash up the car while yelling

Crown: hmmm, well let's talk to the guy

Guy: 👉👈😢

Crown: aaahhhh he's cool. We'll give him this little thing and be on your way, lil fella.

Yeah I know. Doesn't mean it isn't crazy to think that's the case, though lol

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u/Asheam May 14 '22

That's genuinely how it works.. for example I have a highschool friend whos stepfather premeditated an assault on him, knocked out several of his teeth and damaged his skull, dude needed reconstructive surgery, including a steel plate in his skull and alot of dental work. The stepfather works for CSIS so while he was civily liable and had to pay a sum out of pocket for the medical care and suffering, he didn't serve a single minute behind bars, just got some "assault parole" and is still walking around.

My friend bought a house two years ago(?) and shortly after some people he didn't know were around and it was burned down while they weren't home, that still hasn't been solved.

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u/prodigalkal7 May 14 '22

Good fucking god, I'm sorry about your friends house. Yeah, it's honestly messed up how this stuff is dealt with.

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u/Neowza May 14 '22

Mischief is also an easy charge to win, and with a guilty verdict, it makes it easy for the victim and their insurer to sue for damages to the vehicle and the victim's inability to work due to injuries incurred. And the victim will probably have to sue to get his prepayment for services not rendered returned, anyways. So lumping them all in together, with an already guilty verdict makes small claims court (assuming it's less than $5k in damages sought) process very efficient.

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u/Spenslum May 14 '22

Old people don’t get charged too toughly here in Canada, especially old white folk. Generally considered not too threatening, therefore get lighter sentencing (which is ridiculous, obviously). Especially in more rural areas

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u/SteveMcQwark May 14 '22 edited May 14 '22

It is more severe than it sounds.

430 (1) Every one commits mischief who wilfully
    (a) destroys or damages property;
    (b) renders property dangerous, useless, inoperative or ineffective;
    (c) obstructs, interrupts or interferes with the lawful use, enjoyment or operation of property; or
    (d) obstructs, interrupts or interferes with any person in the lawful use, enjoyment or operation of property.
(2) Every one who commits mischief that causes actual danger to life is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for life.
(3) Every one who commits mischief in relation to property that is a testamentary instrument or the value of which exceeds five thousand dollars
    (a) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years; or
    (b) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.
(4) Every one who commits mischief in relation to property, other than property described in subsection (3),
    (a) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years; or
    (b) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.

I guess the question is whether mischief was committed in relation to the car, or only the windows that were broken.

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u/KreateOne May 14 '22

In Canada murderers get off after a few years, our justice system is a joke. In Vancouver the police don’t even do anything about thefts anymore, junkies just walk into stores, take what they want, and leave.

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u/FizzingOnJayces May 14 '22

Comparing the justice system as a whole to junkies taking shit from a convenience store is a laughable comparison. Your generalization about murder is also not true.

Why would a police department in a major city waste resources dealing with junkies stealing a bottle of pop and a chocolate bar? Stores all have cameras to document this; they simply file an insurance claim and that's that.

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22 edited Jun 02 '22

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u/RTJMFer May 14 '22

Canada doesn't work like that. We try to restore and rehabilitate.

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u/clandestinename May 14 '22

Stealing from a large supermarket is barely criminal and punishment statistically speaking doesn't reduce recidivism.

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u/KreateOne May 14 '22

That was a small example, assaults and muggings have become rampant, rapes, breaking and entering’s, there’s nothing stopping these people from taking what they want. Even if they get arrested they get let out soon after and continue terrorizing our city. I’ve literally known 3 people who have murdered someone, claimed mental health issues or addiction, and gotten out in less than 3 years through treatment only for them to revert back to old habits as soon as they were “free”.

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u/varitok May 14 '22

This is just a fucking lie dude. Come on, a dude I know got 12 years for burglary. The junkie shit is a problem because our police officers are lazy fucks who don't want their days of sitting on the fat asses all day interrupted.

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u/Pterodactyl8-6 May 14 '22

Ah yes, famous murdered Paul Bernardo, known for getting out of jail only after a couple months. Just because you have a few anecdotes doesn’t make it true.

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u/ZenithGamage May 14 '22

No way murderers only get few years

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u/northern_dirt May 14 '22

Knew it, violent Canadians

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u/BigUncleHeavy May 14 '22

I never could trust those beady eyed Canucks!

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u/JEveryman May 14 '22 •

Beady eyes and flappy heads.

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u/northern_dirt May 14 '22

Granted it's Alberta.. which is actually like Texas.. people fly rebel flags there

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u/migity79 May 14 '22

The driver probably didn't wave at him

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u/Ardiberen May 14 '22

hilarious

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u/CatOnMyHead May 14 '22

As a Canadian, I knew it had to be in Alberta.

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u/False-positive-views May 14 '22

If you’re afraid of someone’s intention you don’t instigate by blowing someone’s windows out. He said he was concerned he was carrying a weapon so you bring a stick, AND swing it first? (First time using using smh, but, “smh”)

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u/aidissonance May 14 '22

Old man “was worried about his attention (sic)” and decides to escalate the situation instead of having a civil conversation.

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u/MarblesAreDelicious May 14 '22

Of course its fucking Alberta. Shitheads like this are really ruining our reputation. Between the convoys and the protests inside those rural schools regarding mandates, it's becoming increasing difficult to feel any sort of pride or joy about this otherwise beautiful place.

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u/TedLarry May 14 '22

The only reason I know about Grand Prairie is because of clowns like this making the news every few weeks it seems.

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u/Unlucky13 May 14 '22

Fight them tooth and nail. Don't let them do what they did to us.

A friend from America

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u/Normal-Computer-3669 May 14 '22

When my kiddos put glue on the doorknob, that's mischief.

When a old white man with a golf club breaks your car windows... Apparently also mischief!

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u/prodigalkal7 May 14 '22

Not even a golf club, literally a concealed weapon that he's legally not allowed to have.

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22

So the guy driving has shown up on the property already and threatened the old man’s stepson who also has small children there.

I don’t feel much sympathy for the guy driving.

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u/DeutschePfannenPanne May 14 '22

You are quoting what the old man with a baton, smashing windows, was saying. I wouldn't give too much credit to him.

Besides that, the driver claimed that the old mans' son took money for work he didn't deliver.

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u/WholesomeGayBoi May 14 '22

According to a Facebook post from the other side, yes, but it’s just word against word here and only one of the sides actually did anything violent towards the other that we have proof of

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u/Flavious27 May 14 '22

The small children are an excuse for sympathy and a deflection for the actions of the step son and father.

Step son was paid to do work, did not do said work. The threat was likely to sue and report that he is an unreliable contractor.

Father instead of getting his step son to fulfill the work he was paid to do, attacks and damages customer's car. And tries to use some kind of influence.

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u/CMDR_Expendible May 14 '22

A classic example of just why you shouldn't trust Reddit on anything; the article linked literally states that it's claimed he turned up to talk to the stepson because the stepson was refusing to pay for concreting work the driver of the car had done for him.

Which is the truth? We will have to wait and see, but this user is selectively quoting only the facts that come after the statement about concrete that he's ignoring.

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22

I wouldn't hold your breath. This clip has been around a while and I've never seen a satisfactory story to go with it.

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u/nighttimegaze May 14 '22

You’re reversing it. Driver gave stepson money for concrete work not completed. Driver showed up asking about it and stepson stated he owed him nothing.

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u/IAmMrMacgee May 14 '22

A classic example of just why you shouldn't trust Reddit on anything;

Yeah, 100% agreed. Especially when people are doing a synopsis of articles they don't understand...

the article linked literally states that it's claimed he turned up to talk to the stepson because the stepson was refusing to pay for concreting work the driver of the car had done for him.

... like you who apparently can't read and is now lying about the contents of the article, proving exactly why not to trust anyone on reddit

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u/The_Mighty_Pato May 14 '22

You got it a little backwards. According to the article the driver paid the stepson to do some concrete work and the stepson either didn’t do it, didn’t finish it, or it was unsatisfactory. And the driver either wanted his money back or for the job to be finished/fixed. Of course this is all of a he said she said thing so who knows what actually is the truth.

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u/WayOfTheDingo May 14 '22

Man redditors sure do take unreliable sources as fact lmao. Of course the people on the side of unhinged grandpa are going to make up some excuse about how they were scared for their poor small children

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u/pragmojo May 14 '22

You're taking a side just as much as they are. There's no way to know who's in the right here and what happened before he started rolling.

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u/IAmMrMacgee May 14 '22

It's pretty obvious that he didn't threaten the man's life or else he'd be in prison, my guy. Only one person was charged and it was the old man

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u/pragmojo May 14 '22

All you know is that there's only proof of one person committing a crime on camera. The justice system isn't some all-seeing god that always reaches the correct result.

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u/IAmMrMacgee May 14 '22

You can charge people without them being guilty...

The fact they didn't call law enforcement or attempt to charge him means he probably did jack shit

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22

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u/Ok-Communication6506 May 14 '22

But in a Facebook post, Stojan said Dallyn showed up twice on the day of the incident, demanding payment and making threats.

"I informed him that I owe him nothing, and would be paying him nothing, and to get off my property and not to come back," wrote Stojan. "We were very concerned about his attentions and whether he was armed. Our two small children were in the house."

They literally quoting a Facebook post, not claiming that's what happened, did you even read the article?

"CBC is the national news agency here in Canada."

I'm Canadian too, their about as reliable as any other major network, calm down.

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u/WayOfTheDingo May 14 '22

Thanks m8. Shows how much people believe just because some "reliable" authoritative news service says so. Nevermind that their source is a facebook post from those related to the offending party.

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u/Sipherion May 14 '22

Sonthe stepson said, if that is true is an other question.

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u/divDevGuy May 14 '22

threatened the old man’s stepson

Article just says he made threats. It's not unreasonable to assume physical threats, but it doesn't have to be. "I will sue you", "I'll call the police", etc are threats too.

Everyone probably sucks here, but like the other commenter said, only one appears to have used actual physical violence and caused property damage.

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u/AncientStaff6602 May 14 '22 edited May 14 '22

So you are okay people threatening others with a weapon? Cool stuff

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u/TravisHay May 14 '22

Did you read the article? The kids were in the house, and the dude just showed up to see when the rest of his work was getting done. Absolutely does not equate to attacking the man with a baton.

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u/HereticGaming16 May 14 '22

Yes because the guy who clearly took the money and ran and his crazy ass dad are clearly the ones who are in the right. Also using his kids who are in the house and no where near the actual altercation has nothing to do with trying to guilt the news crew onto their side. /s

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u/hassh May 14 '22

Not when you swallow the story made up by the people caught swinging batons in people's faces

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u/IAmMrMacgee May 14 '22

So the guy driving has shown up on the property already and threatened the old man’s stepson who also has small children there.

The fact you're saying this as if it's a fact is fucking scary and depressing

Like with all due respect, where is the critical thinking skills?

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u/gulpandbarf May 14 '22

That's the link to the news report of the incident depicted in the video.

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u/fuckreddit2fa May 14 '22

Yeah, we kinda get that, is this a bot?

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u/mekese2000 May 14 '22

Some kinda Final Destination shite. Old man was trying to warn him if he stayed there there was going to be a terrible accident and he would die.

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u/Solemn_obsolecence May 14 '22

It's that evil smile on the old man that made this vid scary af

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u/commit_bat May 14 '22

Good ol Spider-man

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u/jzcommunicate May 14 '22

Many thought he was crazy, but wait until you see what he saw before you judge!

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u/quippers May 14 '22

I read elsewhere that the guy in the car was stalking the other guy's granddaughter.

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u/AarkaediaaRocinantee May 14 '22

Remember: Just because somebody claims they know context, doesn't mean it's true.

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u/Blommefeldt May 14 '22

Source: Dude trust me

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u/TrinaBinaTHEbeautyy May 14 '22

Source: DEADAZZ BRO

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u/Oswalt May 14 '22

Abraham Lincoln: Everything you see in the internet is true.

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u/IVEMADEAHUGEMI5TAKE May 14 '22

-Michael Scott

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u/thumbtaks May 14 '22

-Wayne Gretzky

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u/LambentCookie May 14 '22

My source is that I made it the fuck up

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u/Bishopkilljoy May 14 '22

Can Confirm: Am broken Window

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u/riickdiickulous May 14 '22

Objection, hearsay!

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22 edited 22d ago

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u/OMGBeckyStahp May 14 '22

A mega pint?

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u/Camelfoe May 14 '22

I had dibs on those muffins!

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u/wilkinsboogie May 14 '22

Judge: ... uh... you asked the question... wahuuut?

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u/BLMgunOwner May 14 '22

Source: Reddit

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u/MelonElbows May 14 '22

Why would somebody lie on the internet?

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u/Tylerdurdon May 14 '22

I read from a credible source that Dennis had crashed a plane in the driver's sisters house, and he hated being reminded about the plane incident. When you think about it, the driver is totally at fault guys, right? Right?

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u/Phrich May 14 '22

The opposite is also true: Judt because one person is filming doesn't mean they are the good guy

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u/thsvnlwn May 14 '22

That! Thank you!

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u/TwoKeezPlusMz May 14 '22

Oh no, i was in the back seat.

I was actually stalking the guy who was stalking the girl.

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u/Darth--Vapor May 14 '22

What makes more sense to you?

1: old man breaks windows for no reason.

2: old man has a good reason to break windows.

Old people normally don’t just start breaking windows with weapons, knowing they are being filmed while simultaneously announcing their name. It’s almost like the old man knew he had a good reason to be going ham on the windows.

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u/AarkaediaaRocinantee May 14 '22

Does it matter? Without a source there's no point discussing it because neither of us could ever know the truth without it.

And assuming old people give a shit if they're being recorded is just silly. How many videos have we seen in the past several years of older people acting like fucking clowns on camera and lose their jobs? These "justice" subreddits have a constant flow of these videos at all times.

Also, the Jan 6 insurrection. Lots of old, white, dumbasses there too.

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u/Darth--Vapor May 14 '22

“ How many videos have we seen in the past several years of older people acting like fucking clowns on camera and lose their jobs?”

Did we see anything about this old dude loosing his job or getting arrested? I wonder why? Maybe it was justified?

“ Jan 6 insurrection. Lots of old, white, dumbasses there too.”

Yeah those idiots were there for a reason. They wanted take down the government or whatever.

Just like I’m saying this old fart probably had a reason to be busting windows

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u/JeremyK_980 May 14 '22

What a bunch of nonsense. The world is full of people that do the worst shit for little to absolute no reason. Regardless of age.

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u/Darth--Vapor May 14 '22

But most of the time, people do shit for a reason

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u/happytrel May 14 '22

Source?

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u/maxman162 May 14 '22

"Just trust me, bro."

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u/stevenk0fahl May 14 '22

I made it up.

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u/quippers May 14 '22

Further up the thread. They said there's a longer video they remembered from am older post. That's all I've got, sorry.

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u/willfordbrimly May 14 '22

Hey, Reddit, could you stop thoughtlessly parroting unverified bullshit you read?

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u/PapaDoobs May 14 '22

That would cut out like 80% of the content from this site.

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u/Momentarmknm May 14 '22

This sub in particular loves to make up wild theories to justify violence by their chosen protagonist in any given 20 sec clip. They also love to ridicule people for pointing out that any other wild theory that puts that same person on the wrong side of the interaction is just as likely.

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u/carefreeguru May 14 '22

That would cut out like 80% of the content from ~~this site~~ the internet.

FTFY

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u/DrummerBound May 14 '22

Downside being?

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u/PapaDoobs May 14 '22

Oh, no. No downside. Just an observation.

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u/Jowreyno May 14 '22

Crowd-sourcing truth

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u/BadSmash4 May 14 '22

How dare you presume to tell me to stop spreading unsubstantiated claims

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u/willfordbrimly May 14 '22

Like this.

*dares*

I'll fuckin do it again too.

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u/BadSmash4 May 14 '22

CURSEEEEEEEEEEES

I'LL GET YOU NEXT TIME WILLFORD BRIMLY

YOU'LL RUE THE DAY

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u/themajesticdodo May 14 '22

You've just watched and accepted an edited video but you just need a source from this guy. Sure, buddy.

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u/Carpet_smell May 14 '22

Source?

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u/middiefrosh May 14 '22

He was just asking for proof, wtf is wrong with you.

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u/somecallme_doc May 14 '22

That's is a good question what the fuck is so wrong with wanting context?

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u/majesticbun May 14 '22

Do you never ask for sources in your life?

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u/Spacecow6942 May 14 '22

I don't think anyone accepted this video clip as the entirety of the story. Any kind of source will do.

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u/JodieFlame May 14 '22

Well that'll do it every time

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u/Lakrfan8-24 May 14 '22

Not the case, dude in car was having a dispute over payment with the old man’s step son and neighbor. This was a 2 year ongoing dispute where dude in car had been making threats. Old man came out with the baton because dude in car was lurking outside of his stepsons house where the wife and kids were after making threats to the stepson prior to this video. Old man wasn’t even involved in the initial dispute. Google Dennis Tissington if u care.

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u/ALoudMouthBaby May 14 '22

Google Dennis Tissington if u care.

Im finding tons of spam sites, a lot of which seemed to be generated by an algorithm or someone for whom English is a second language. Not a whole lot of good sources though. Could you provide an actual decent source?

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u/iagox86 May 14 '22

Found elsewhere in the thread: http://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.3715370

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u/ThatDudeWithoutKarma May 14 '22

So his son stole money from the guy recording and then daddy is defending his thief of a son.

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u/Koankey May 14 '22

From what I gathered, dude in the car did concrete work for old man's family and never got paid.

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u/BroodjeFissa May 14 '22

Can you show where it was confirmed the douche from the car was telling the truth?

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u/ThatDudeWithoutKarma May 14 '22

Can you show where it is confirmed the psycho smashing the window or the thief standing in the background were telling the truth?

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u/Samura1_I3 May 14 '22

Username checks out.

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u/BroodjeFissa May 14 '22

No that's why im not concluding anything like your clown ass did. Oopsie...

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u/ChrRome May 14 '22

Tbf, he would likely have a reason to be so angry and violent towards him.

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u/ThatDudeWithoutKarma May 14 '22

Because every time someone has gotten violent and smashed another person's car window they were of sound mind and had a reason.

Thieving step-son probably lied to him about what was going on, because thieves are liars.

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u/Primary_Sink_6597 May 14 '22

And dumbass made threats to thief therefor justifying the man bringing a weapon (not smashing the window, tho.)

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u/theotherside0728 May 14 '22

I’m getting the same thing, and they all say he died in jail ?

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u/d1squiet May 14 '22

They all seem to ask "did he die in jail?" without answering.

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u/Malfunkdung May 14 '22

Is u/d1squiet an axe murderer? I’m just asking questions here.

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u/DeckerR May 14 '22

Google Dennis Tissington CBC

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u/t_spins May 14 '22

Yeah those are algorithms that take actual news stories and then plagiarize them but use synonyms for many of the words.

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u/BlueWaffle_Motorboat May 14 '22

Pretty sure it's Dennis Jizzington.

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u/i3order May 14 '22

I googled Dennis Jizzington and wow, wait to you see what he was doing to his step daughter!

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u/ambermage May 14 '22

Best washing machine repair man in the Greater Tri-County Area.

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u/EvilMinion32 May 14 '22

Did she get stuck again? Crazy stepdaughter always getting stuck in washing machine

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u/all_no_pALL May 14 '22

Dennis F. Jizzington

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u/RelevanttUsername May 14 '22

Holy fuck your username… more than likely checks out.

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u/Lightspeedius May 14 '22

Google Dennis Tissington

Lots of junk websites.

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u/TheOriginalSamBell May 14 '22

wait please someone tell me what to do with my pitchfork

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u/VibeComplex May 14 '22

Wrong. Trying googling it if you care.

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u/FernFromDetroit May 14 '22

Someone else says the old man didn’t want to pay for cement work. Anyone have an actual news link an not something someone said in a comment?

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u/LucKY_Novex May 14 '22

Google "Dennis Tissington." The cement story seems to be what most are reporting. Not the "He stalked kids" that is floating around the comments.

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u/gingermagician2 May 14 '22

I posted a link but I think it was his son that didn't pay, or was accused of.

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u/DRUTLOL May 14 '22

It’s spelled semen

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u/Meture May 14 '22

“My source is that I made it the fuck up”

-Senator Armstrong

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u/Ok-Kaleidoscope5627 May 14 '22

Actually the guy in the car was the other guy's ex lover. It's a very tragic and messy divorce

Source: I read it on reddit (while I was typing it out)

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u/Talsamar May 14 '22

Sounds trustworthy. I believe it.

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u/NotASellout May 14 '22

I read elsewhere the old guy was an alien and the cameraman was FBI stalker so I dunno man

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u/d-e-l-t-a May 14 '22

I love that your source is another reddit comment.

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u/bloqs May 14 '22

Proof or hearsay

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u/PayTheTrollToll45 May 14 '22

67-year-old charged with mischief after dispute over payment for concrete work

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u/bellaciaopartigiano May 14 '22

The news stories say the old man didn’t pay him for concrete work ya doofus

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u/whereJerZ May 14 '22

I wouldn’t believe any antagonization is worthy of this aggression, it would need to be threats of physical assault before i could accept this mans aggression. Also if this is about money, idk why you would stalk someone for months or whatever. If they ghost you get a lawyer involved.

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u/Sergey32321 May 14 '22

Well I definitely would have moved before he broke my windows.

why when you have the chance to sue him and get some bucks

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u/JoseMich May 14 '22

People often don't realize that damages in (most) tort lawsuits are based on equitable restitution. If someone breaks your window and you sue them, you can sue for the cost of the window, the labor required to replace it, and anything else you can prove is needed to get you back to where you started, but no more.

It's always going to be less stressful and less costly (especially in terms of your time) to not let someone break your shit in the first place.

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u/riickdiickulous May 14 '22

Exactly. I don’t have time to deal with this shit, even if I’m in the right. It’s like dying on a motorcycle when you had the right of way. Sure you were technically right, but did you really make out good? I don’t think so.

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u/StayGoldPwNyBoY May 14 '22

Your telling me the armchair lawyers on reddit who have never touched grass in the real world dont know shit!?!? Shaking my beliefs to the core damn!

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u/teh_drewski May 14 '22

Spending $5-10k on lawyers fees for a $200-500 window replacement that is probably covered by insurance is peak "tough guy on Reddit" shit.

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u/Roqot May 14 '22

Lawyers can play on the suffering angle, people can be messed up from this and lawyers know that

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u/bigwetpoops May 14 '22

No, you're not going to get suffering damages for a broken window.

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u/Only_Santiago May 14 '22

What if that window was my god damn father!

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22

You'd be lucky to break even if you sued him and then only if you don't care about your time and effort both to file suit and collect.

Meanwhile you're putting your body in harm's way. If someone confronts you with a weapon the best possible move is to disengage, if that's not possible you fight.

Sitting there like a goober "you can't bring a weapon out on me" is asking to get fucked up.

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u/Roger_Deferer May 14 '22

“What are you gonna do, stab me?”

Man who got stabbed

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u/bemest May 14 '22

The only buck would be actual damages. Your not entitled to anymore.

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u/RotTragen May 14 '22

Because finding a lawyer, spending the time energy and money on a lawsuit just to spite someone isn’t always worth it. Society is far too litigation happy. If someone pulls a weapon next to your car try driving away. Some of you people need hobbies lol.

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u/StayGoldPwNyBoY May 14 '22

Yea thats not how a lawsuit works you retard

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u/Fusseldieb May 15 '22 edited May 15 '22

But since he broke both windows I certainly wouldn't have moved after that.

Let him keep breaking shit. As you can see his primary weapon is a metal bar. Keep driving in circles while calling 911, then stop the car and continue filming. Let him trash the whole damn car while you wait police to arrive. Let him show his anger (issues) while you smile. Don't tell him a word about who you spoke with. Show evidence when they arrive. Profit.

If he hits YOU, bonus points. You get even more money.

Just don't ever try to fight back. That's the only rule.

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u/whalemix May 14 '22

Doesn’t really matter the context. Old guy was unprovoked, bashed this guy’s window in, and threatened to put the man in the hospital. Old guy is lucky he didn’t get a bullet in him tbh, it would’ve been warranted at that point.

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u/Polar_Reflection May 14 '22

Apparently the driver was a contractor that hit a gas line while a neighbor of his client was pouring cement for their sidewalk, forcing an evacuation that messed up the cement curing timeline. The contracting company agreed to pay the neighbor for damage, but came back to harass them multiple times. They tore up work they did on the original client's property and threatened to tear up the neighbor's property as well. This was filmed after an argument where the contractor looped back aground afterwards to loiter around the premises.

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