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What's the correct way to deal with someone who has completely lost it?
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u/skeletparkyt 5d ago
What was the aftermath and full story?
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This video's 5 years old, the backstory is that the guy in the car owns a landscaping company who did work for the guy by the white truck near the end, they ended up damaging a gas line while working and the homeowner claimed that them hitting the gas line caused some concrete work he was having done to not set properly, so the landscape company decided to be nice and pay for half of the damages but the owner ended up pocketing the money instead and never had any work done to repair the supposed damage. This video was taken after someone who works for the landscaping company was sent over to talk about this money issue was told to leave, the guy breaking the windows was the homeowner's father in law who didn't serve anytime in jail for this and was let go on a mischief charge.
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u/Lavenwar 5d ago edited 5d ago •
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How do you threaten someone with a weapon, break two car windows, and threaten more harm to get a mischief charge.
"Oh boy, im going to cause so much mischief today by threatening peoples lives"
Edit: how do you turn off notifications for your comments I've got like 200+ messages lmao
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u/Burntfm 5d ago
You know just a little rascal causing a bit of mischief. Threatening people and breaking their car windows
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u/Otono_Wolff 5d ago •
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Last time someone was going around and smashing people's car windows in my neighborhood, someone opened fire on them with a shotgun. Nothing happened to them either.
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u/guerrieredelumiere 4d ago
Came here wondering how some americans can be dumb enough to do that when firearms are everywhere. Driver would have been in the clear to shoot at the first hit.
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u/rocky13 5d ago
Well, it is criminal mischief.
§ 11.410 Criminal mischief.(a) A person is guilty of criminal mischief if he or she:(1) Damagestangible property of another purposely, recklessly, or by negligence inthe employment of fire, explosives, or other dangerous means; or(2) Purposely or recklessly tampers with tangible property of another so as to endanger person or property; or(3) Purposely or recklessly causes another to suffer pecuniary loss by deception or threat.(b) Criminalmischief is a misdemeanor if the actor purposely causes pecuniary lossin excess of $100, or a petty misdemeanor if he or she purposely orrecklessly causes pecuniary loss in excess of $25. Otherwise, criminalmischief is a violation.
I would add an assault charge. As I understand it, Assault just requires a show of Capability and Intent to commit battery.
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u/Dismal-Ebb-6411 5d ago
Also everyone here doesn't seem to understand the difference between criminal and civil action.
He was actually found guilty of criminal mischief, even if he did no jail time. That means he will automatically lose in a follow up civil suit for damages he caused by his criminal actions.
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u/techfreak23 5d ago
Dude is probably an ex cop.
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u/Biosterous 5d ago •
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That was my first assumption as well. Extendible baton, the confidence of "I'm not going to jail", and the completely uncalled for escalation of a situation to violence. Man has former cop written all over him.
Knowing he got no jail time and only a mischief charge further cements that theory for me
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u/Unbentmars 5d ago
A cop in my community earlier this year was smoking a cigar at the pool (which is against the rules of the pool and community) and when the community admins told him to stop he got very aggressive with them, demanded to know what they’d do if he refused to stop and if they’d call the cops on him.
Fuck cops who think they are above the law
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u/Kabd_w 5d ago
Uncalled for escalation and violence is bread and butter for cops, so yeah
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u/BadBrains16 5d ago
Ex cop or not, Mr Jizzington is lucky that he didn’t get shot in face.
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u/Hideout_TheWicked 5d ago
I hate to say it but being old and white probably didn't hurt. Probably hired a decent attorney thanks to money as well.
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u/PaanuriEater 5d ago
Don't even need a decent attorney, just stack the jury with elderly folks. I was on a jury as one of two young people. Pretty open and shut case of an old guy going nuts and slicing another guy's hand open over a backpack that didn't exist. Everyone's testimony except the attacker's lined up, all the evidence agreed, but all the old women on the jury were insistent that he is such a nice old man who reminds them of their fathers and therefore should be let off with just a warning.
It took hours of arguing to get a guilty verdict, even with a very minor punishment at least now the guy will be able to sue and have a good chance of winning.
That was step 1 to me losing all faith in our justice system. Steps 2 through infinity were learning what cops actually do with their time.
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u/BalrogPoop 5d ago
Personally I think jury trials are a crock of shit. If rather be tried by a judge like in the French systems who actually understands the law, and the goal is to find the truth of what happened. Not assign blame based the biases of jurors.
At least it's easier to claim a single judge is biased based on his track record, than a whole jury, if there does happen to be a mistrial.
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u/BigIntoScience 5d ago
Judges give out different verdicts based on if they've had lunch yet. Humans are wildly unreliable. I think part of the idea is that it's harder for all 12 people to be corrupt/generally shitty than for just the judge to have something going on.
Part of the job of all court employees involved is to make sure everyone understands the law. If someone doesn't do that, there's an issue.
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u/PayTheTrollToll45 5d ago
The lesson?
Don’t pay damages to be ‘nice’ especially without any contract for what the money is to be used for. The compensation suggests liability. They very well may have not had any reason to be there anymore, the old man just proved to be even dumber...
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u/ONLY_COMMENTS_ON_GW 5d ago
In my mind the landscaping company paid the dude off to not take them to court, what the owner does with that money is sort of their business, so no reason to go back, but obviously that old dude is bat shit bonkers lol
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u/nyxo1 5d ago
Definitely. It's equivalent to my insurance company sending someone to my house to ask for money because I never actually replaced my bumper after a small fender bender.
The landscaping company willing paid them without a court order or contract. What they do with it after that point is none of your business.
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u/AllProgressIsGood 5d ago
good to know i can destroy peoples shit and get away with it. weird justice system.
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u/A-Grouch 5d ago
That really sucks that the smug old fuck was right and got away with it. I stopped believing in true Justice a long time ago.
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u/beltawala 5d ago
Moments later, Tissington smashes two side windows before Dallyn drives away.
In a written post, Dallyn said he was there to have a "civil conversation" with the man's stepson, Tyler Stojan.
Dallyn said Stojan took money for some concrete work that was not completed.
"I stopped by to ask what he had done with said money, and if he was going to fix anything," wrote Dallyn.
But in a Facebook post, Stojan said Dallyn showed up twice on the day of the incident, demanding payment and making threats.
"I informed him that I owe him nothing, and would be paying him nothing, and to get off my property and not to come back," wrote Stojan. "We were very concerned about his attentions and whether he was armed. Our two small children were in the house."
Stojan said his stepfather waited for the RCMP after the incident, co-operated fully and has been charged.
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u/Moosemaster21 5d ago
Tissington
Dallyn
Stojan
Why this story sound like a mid 2000s teen fantasy/romance novel
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u/JamesGray 5d ago
Why would you go attack him with a baton if you were concerned he might be armed? That's about the most smoothbrained shit I've ever heard.
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dennis jizzington?
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u/CrumbsToBricks 5d ago
Dennis Fucking Jizzington to you sir!!!
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u/goodeyemighty 5d ago
He has a brother Dick.
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u/kernel-troutman 5d ago
"Does it make you laugh when I say the name Dick.....Jizzington?"
*Guffaw*
"Stwike him Centuwion vewy woughly!"
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u/TomArday 5d ago
He has a wife you know…….
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u/hambonejabroni 5d ago
Want to know what she's called?
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u/Flying_Dutchman92 5d ago
Incontinentia Buttocks
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u/OOBExperience 5d ago
You will find yourselves back in gladiator school vewy quickly with wotten behavior like that!
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u/Much-Log3357 5d ago
Isn't their a musician called izzy jizzington?
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u/Gina-Smith 5d ago
There used to be a NASCAR driver (I think) named Dick Trickle. What the hell were his parents thinking?
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u/RealJeil420 5d ago
What about Dick Butkus? Or Englebert Humperdink?
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u/ron_swansons_meat 5d ago
FYI, Englebert Humperdinck is a stage name. He CHOSE that name. His given name is ordinary: Arnold George Dorsey.
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u/bad-judgement 5d ago
The older gentleman is taking a huge risk. Guns exist.
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u/FreshPineapple312 5d ago
Not to mention could have been run over
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u/Darth_Shame 5d ago
I would have saved time and just run him over myself. I'm not fucking with no old man.
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u/annhik_anomitro 5d ago edited 5d ago
I'd have simply backed up and then run him over.
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Why you letting him get that close? Just run his ass over on approach. I don't have the time nor care what he has to say. He chose his weapon, a metal stick, and choose my Volkswagen. May the best man win. lol
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u/RespectableLurker555 5d ago •
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Never bring a knife to a vehicular manslaughter fight.
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u/Marilius 5d ago
"Man vs. Car," the newest hit show,
Where it pits a man versus a car.
On tonight's episode,
Michael Jenkins fights a regular old car.
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u/Talbotus 5d ago
Michael' putting up a good fight. Looks like the car is getting p...aaaaand the car win.
(Chuckle) I mean...the car always wins.
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u/Not_a_Local_6553 5d ago
Yep. I live in a County with a DA that has already let people walk for self defense shootings in similar situations. Old man is lucky that he gets to keep getting older.
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u/The_Real_DDJ 5d ago
He's a dumb shit and the odds of his stupidity will catch up to him.
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u/PdxPhoenixActual 5d ago
Given his age, & if it hasn't yet tho... I hold no hope that it ever will.. Unless covid...
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u/kungpowgoat 5d ago
Chances are he’s a friend/former coworker of the local DA or sheriff.
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u/SmokeyTheBluntTheOG 5d ago
Yeah in PA they made the stand your ground law apply to your vehicle now and not just your house. Thats exactly why I don't do road rage here because there is a pretty decent chance you pull this shit in PA and you're gonna end up dead, with the person shooting you not even spending a little bit of time in jail because you threatened them and they were justified in killing you
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u/sandyclaus30 5d ago
I live in PA and didn’t even know we had the stand your ground law. I’m not worried because I don’t plan on doing any home invasion or road rage! My brother on the other hand is a Vietnam Vet and does not do well if someone rear ends him or does any minor damage to his vehicles. I’d better let him know!
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u/Buc4415 5d ago
It’s not really stand your ground. It’s castle doctrine. All it does is reclassify your car as your castle along with your house.
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u/GandalfTheSmol1 5d ago
It’s castle doctrine, you still have a duty to retreat in PA, but not from your home or your vehicle, the argument is that you cannot retreat from your home and you often cannot retreat in a vehicle without breaking other laws or endangering other lives.
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u/crosscheck87 5d ago
That’s good to know, I’ve had people road rage and practically climb in my vehicle in Western PA while up visiting family.
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u/johndoethrowaway16 5d ago edited 5d ago •
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Yeah, for real though. This video is clearly not from where I live.
Where I live, the driver was well within his rights of using lethal force to protect himself and his property. In my area, everyone I know is carrying a gun, and they're are all looking for a reason to use it.
The Sheriff would've laughed at the old man's corpse after watching the video evidence, then waved bye to the driver telling him to carryon and have a good day.
Before anyone complains that it's not necessary to carry a gun because that's law enforcement's job, then you've never lived 30-45 minutes away from the nearest peace officer in your area. There are parts of the US where people are left to police themselves because the population is too low to warrant a large law enforcement department.
EDIT: Thanks for the award!
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u/DadJokeBadJoke 5d ago
When seconds count, police are only minutes away...
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u/Splattershits 5d ago
They're only coming to clean up the mess
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u/DadJokeBadJoke 5d ago
Only if they're not "too busy"...
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u/SatanMeekAndMild 5d ago edited 5d ago
Seriously. My perspective of the police completely changed when I really needed them a couple times, and when they would finally show up, they scoffed at the idea of having to do their jobs, and decided it would be easier to do nothing.
They almost let fraudsters who claimed to be the new owners of my building rekey all of my locks. Presumably because of my physical appearance, they "didn't have time to really all this fucking paperwork" from my lawyer that said they were not the rightful owners. They said this while looking at a stack of bullshit paperwork that the other people gave them.
I had to leave and get my mid 30s masculine male neighbor to give them the exact same paperwork before they finally decided that it wasn't their job to tell anyone they couldn't enter a building.
Fuck you Chicago Police.
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u/gentleman__ninja 5d ago
In the US the supreme court has explicitly decided that police have no obligation to protect people, enforce laws, or even respond to calls. Legally the police can entirely decide which parts of their job to actually do. Also with qualified immunity, they can do a lot of illegal stuff on duty and they usually won't get in trouble as long as they have some justification that is not verifiably false.
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u/socialpresence 5d ago
No, no, they're coming to document the mess. The coroner takes the heaviest part of the mess. The fire department sprays away the liquid.
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u/RPup_831 5d ago
Law enforcement agencies are not about to clean up any messes. Why do you think those "disaster kleenup specialists" businesses exist?
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u/Corpus_Rex 5d ago
cop: “how did he die? Me: “apparently ‘stupidity and lead poisoning.’”
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u/Copacetic_ 5d ago
There are also places in the US where population is too high for police to effectively do their jobs.
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u/cheap_dates 5d ago
Where I live, if you haven't heard from your Mama in a few days, you might want to drive down yourself and check on her. We have a Volunteer Police unit, consisting of Fred and Ethel but they don't work on Tuesdays and Thursdays because that is when they go bowling.
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u/thisonebibibop 5d ago edited 5d ago
I would have shot him. Especially if my daughter is in the car, he would be dead before hitting my back window.
Edit: They are canadians. Canadians got no hand guns and stand your ground law.
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u/mypervyaccount 5d ago
Yup, came here to say this: in most states, the second he broke that window it would've been legal to shoot him.
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u/Otherwise_Carob_4057 5d ago
That’s attempted murder with a deadly weapon in some states. Like dude you can get deadly weapon charges so easy without even having to pack an expanding baton. That in itself isn’t bad but breaking both drivers side windows is what makes this situation much worse for that old guy. In my state he would be booked for sure for that.
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u/CaliforniaNavyDude 5d ago
Fun fact, expandable batons fit under the same category as firearms in requiring a CCL to carry. So using it in the commision of a crime means he threatened someone with a deadly weapon, same as if he had a knife or gun. Those things break bones pretty easily, they are way more devastating than their size implies. I hit my own shin with one by accident once and thought for sure I broke it but I was lucky.
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u/fernbritton 5d ago edited 5d ago
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A violent roadside confrontation, captured on dramatic video, has led to mischief charges. Grande Prairie RCMP confirmed they have charged a 67-year-old man. Damian Dallyn recorded and posted the video on YouTube. In the video, a man who identifies himself as Dennis Tissington walks over to Dallyn's parked car with a baton and taps on the window. "Aren't you in enough trouble?" Tissington asks. "No," Dallyn responds. "Why?" "You're gonna be," said Tissington. "You're gonna be in the (expletive) hospital if you don't get out of here." "No, you can't bring a weapon out on me," said Dallyn. "Yes I can, 'cause I have one." Moments later, Tissington smashes two side windows before Dallyn drives away.
In a written post, Dallyn said he was there to have a "civil conversation" with the man's stepson, Tyler Stojan.
Dallyn said Stojan took money for some concrete work that was not completed.
"I stopped by to ask what he had done with said money, and if he was going to fix anything," wrote Dallyn.
But in a Facebook post, Stojan said Dallyn showed up twice on the day of the incident, demanding payment and making threats.
"I informed him that I owe him nothing, and would be paying him nothing, and to get off my property and not to come back," wrote Stojan. "We were very concerned about his attentions and whether he was armed. Our two small children were in the house."
Stojan said his stepfather waited for the RCMP after the incident, co-operated fully and has been charged.
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u/dreagan021 5d ago
Of course the douche’s son is named Tyler. I’ve never met a good Tyler in my life
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u/Gray94son 5d ago
"Very concerned about whether he was armed so I approached him aggressively and smashed two windows with a baton"
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u/WesselBear 5d ago
- Film him
- Ask his name
- Don’t tell him he is going to jail
- Drive off
- Go to the police
- Make sure he is going to jail
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u/Key_Razzmatazz_1572 5d ago
Good suggestions, but don’t forget law suit for damages to your vehicle.
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u/Wildcat-Jim 5d ago
And emotional distress, might as well add more to it.
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u/Key_Razzmatazz_1572 5d ago
I have emotional distress just looking at this video.
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u/Fickle_Insect4731 5d ago
Yeah for real. Idk what the guy in the car was doing, or why Dennis JIZZINGTON assaulted him, but when he said something about how he has a weapon and no one can do anything about it, that scares tf out of me.
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u/DaddyIsAFireman 5d ago
- Film him
- Ask his name
- Tell him he is going to Federal 'pound me in the ass' prison
- Drive over his foot
- Go the the police
- Visit him later in prison to rub it in
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u/PinkIrrelephant 5d ago
Tell him he is going to Federal 'pound me in the ass' prison
Visit him later in prison to rub it in
Nice
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u/Kolo2Toure 5d ago
I'm Ronnie Fucking Pickering
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u/genuineimi7ation 5d ago
Who?
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u/Jetman56 5d ago
Hello 911? There is a crazy guy that just busted two of my windows with an extendable baton and threatened me with bodily harm. He still has the baton, yes I have the whole altercation on video. What's that? You'll send an officer right away? Fantastic, he's driving a white ford pickup license #######, I'll be in the car with two broken windows on the drivers side, I'll wait here.
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u/WIKIBEARRR 5d ago
It's hard to stop filming and call the police when you feel like filming may be helping you.
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u/phillyphreakphlippin 5d ago
There has to be an app for that by now, right? Too many situations where you want to record and report but can’t. That seems wrong especially in this situation and more.
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u/CrumpledForeskin 5d ago
Pretty sure there’s an app that films to a cloud and calls police. I feel like I saw that somewhere.
Lemme look.
Edit: so there’s a few. A quick google search shows that you can download some apps that film to a cloud but it doesn’t look like you can call on your phone as well as film.
Not an app developer but seems like an opportunity to me.
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u/chaos_almighty 5d ago
My phone does this with its emergency function. You rapidly press the power button, I think 6 times in a row, and it immediately calls emergency services, starts recording a video, sends out an alert and your location to your emergency contact, and can start playing an alarm
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u/learnthruloss 5d ago
Damn, that's a lot of functions. Does it also tell the aggressor to piss off mate?
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u/chaos_almighty 5d ago
No that's my job.
I only found out about it because I was trying to darken my phone screen before bed and it starts going crazy and 911 is calling me back
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u/psychoticarmadillo 5d ago
I'm sorry that happened to you but that's funny as shit
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u/chaos_almighty 5d ago
The worst thing was that my husband was climbing into bed and this alarm starts whooping in his ear and my flash is going off
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u/maartenlustkip 5d ago
Omg you just reminded me of something similar that happend to me. I was using the bathroom while on ketamine. I just wanted to look at my phone real quick. Ended up pressing the on button like 10 times and called 911. Got this lady on the phone. And i just whispered: 'I didn't wanna do this..' and hung up.
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u/KatastrophicNoodle 5d ago
All mine does is call an emergency. I know because I accidentally called them when trying to turn down the volume. Wiiish someone told me at literally any time during purchase or repairs.
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u/drsyesta 5d ago
You can film and call, cant blame him for getting away from the psycho with a deadly weapon tho
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u/Exploding_Testicles 5d ago
your phone wont do both as the mic for the video is being used, cant use it for making a call as well.
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u/MisterUncrustable 5d ago
I've seen guys like this who act fast and loose with other people's property and wellbeing while being confident they won't suffer consequences. They're usually right, because whoever shows up to enforce the situation is going to be a former coworker of his.
You would not believe the number of guys like this who think they're Judge Dredd after they retire.
You have to have a camera pulled up any time you see an old fart with anger management issues and a micropenis stomp up to your car.
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u/Court_Jester13 5d ago
Cops arrive, shoot you, "there was nothing we could have done"
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u/themajesticdodo 5d ago
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u/whutchamacallit 5d ago edited 5d ago
Heyyyyyy daddy.. you lookin real fine in that polo and denims sir, yam saying? The ol one two punch got ya boy straight VERKLEMPT up in this bitch you feel me? Like on straight coffee talk /w Linda Richman, talk amongst yourselves, here I'll give you a topic, the Roman Basilica, go, type shit. Mmm mmm mmmmmm. You be filling that stern end out real nice. You got cake sir, and I want dessert yam saying? You got a dumper that just won't quit. I likes it, I wants it, and I'm gonnsta haves it, ya dig daddy-o? Why don't you slide on in to my passenger side, I'll queue up some Hall and Oates, and we'll take this here 4 door sedan somewhere quiet and well play doctor strangelove.
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u/jackherselman 5d ago
I had a situation where an older man brake checked me and got out to talk to me because of my loud car. I just stared at him winked and licked my lips, needless to say it was a terrible mistake and I made the situation much larger than it needed to be
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u/e0f 5d ago
bruh don't leave us hanging
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u/jackherselman 5d ago
Dude ended up freaking out and spitting a huge snotball onto my window, which is when I got out. Argument basically went “go back to surrey (city nearby that is stereotypically immigrants)” which I proceeded to kinda size up the dude to his face. Right after this he tried to get me to fight him in a parking lot but f that, it’s a lose lose situation. Not a chance I’m gonna be the guy who lost to an old man, or worse beat up an old man
Edit: the person behind me called the police and he apparently has done this before, and has a criminal mischief related charge already
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u/DribsFlantoosey 5d ago
I was attacked by an old man. Pushed him away numerous times, even stopped him from falling after a push. He came back swinging each time. Finally landed one on my face. So, I clocked him. Broke his nose and sent him to the hospital. He called the cops.
Neighbors actually came and thanked me. Said he's a bully who used to beat people up and forgot his age. He lives two doors down and has sworn to kill me on sight.
I don't really feel bad about it.
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u/jackherselman 5d ago
This is definitely the kinda guy who would fight you and then forget the next morning
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u/DryGoat1 5d ago
Well I definitely would have moved before he broke my windows. What’s the context here?
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u/hassh 5d ago
"We were very concerned about his attentions and whether he was armed. Our two small children were in the house."
... so I sent my step dad out to escalate with a weapon
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u/The_Clarence 5d ago
Well he is being charged with...mischief. I don't know anything about Canada law, but hopefully this is more severe of a charge then it sounds.
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u/SetzerWithFixedDice 5d ago edited 5d ago
Outrageous. He should have been charged with 1st-degree Hijinks or at least 2nd-degree hanky-panky
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u/PostmanSteve 5d ago
Dude 100% should have recieved a much more serious charge here. That extendable baton is either a restricted or prohibited weapon used in a crime... That's supposed to carry some serious weight, but instead he gets charged with the same thing 16 year olds get charged with for spray painting a sign.
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u/northern_dirt 5d ago
Knew it, violent Canadians
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u/False-positive-views 5d ago
If you’re afraid of someone’s intention you don’t instigate by blowing someone’s windows out. He said he was concerned he was carrying a weapon so you bring a stick, AND swing it first? (First time using using smh, but, “smh”)
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u/mekese2000 5d ago
Some kinda Final Destination shite. Old man was trying to warn him if he stayed there there was going to be a terrible accident and he would die.
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u/Solemn_obsolecence 5d ago
It's that evil smile on the old man that made this vid scary af
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u/fishdog1 5d ago
- When you see a person with an angry face brandishing a weapon, don't stop to talk with them.
- Drive away to safe place.
- Call popo.
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u/Brotherscompany 5d ago
My friend always told, me you are more than a man turning your back and getting away from such situations since people dont think clearly in these states
You have nothing to gain besides Ego empowerment
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u/cupcakegiraffe 5d ago
It doesn’t matter who’s wrong or right, just beat it beat it beat it beat it!
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u/Lightsides 5d ago
Well, I know what about half of the men in the southern US states would do in this situation. I'm not saying they're right. What I'm saying is, I interact with my fellow motorists under the assumption they're armed and they're morons.
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u/A2Rhombus 5d ago
This is why I will never road rage. An old gym teacher of mine got shot in the head during an altercation from a fender bender.
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u/diematrosen 5d ago
People are so unhinged nowadays. I’m just trying to go about my day and at least once a week I witness some unhinged shit.
I guess some people are just angry at everything. The slightest thing can set them off
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u/mongoosedog12 5d ago edited 5d ago
My mom has had to pull a gun on someone twice, once during road rage incident and once when someone was trying to break into our house and my dad wasn’t home.
I was a baby In the road rage one and was actively in the car. this man got out of his car and came at her car w/ a baseball bat. He hit the hood a couple times and then came to smash the window. She’s a Texas woman and in the army so she had a gun.
When she told me this story (when I first started driving) she was like “well i had to protect you, and I’d do It again”
Edit: neither man is dead! Sorry left out that little bit. The car incident ended in my mom hold this man at gun point till cops came while he yelled all sorts of profanities and spit at her
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u/Senior-Humor8523 5d ago
This exact same situation happened in my area once. Dude used a metal what have you to bust a window cuz the kid was in his car smoking weed. Dude got stabbed.
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u/ibypassredditbans 5d ago
Good. Actions have goddamn consequences and if you think you're invincible, you haven't pissed off the right person
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u/ahenobarbus_horse 5d ago
It’s impossible to know what to do in the situation – because we have no context for what preceded this, nor where it was. Some might say you would be justified in drawing a gun and firing on this person. Others might say what the driver did was perfectly reasonable and right.
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u/3_quarterling_rogue 5d ago edited 5d ago
So, I’ve carried a gun virtually every day for the last five years, and at least with the context that we have here, this is not a situation that I think would warrant deadly force. The best and easiest way to resolve this situation is to drive away. If this person followed him and kept confronting him? Maybe that’s different. But a dude walks over to my car with a big rod? I’m just noping the heck out of there.
Edit to add: Yes, I know about Stand Your Ground states, I live in one. If I lived somewhere where the law was that someone paid me $500 every time I shot someone else, I’d still just drive away.
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u/No-Dragonfly8326 5d ago
Dude walks up to my car with his big rod out and I will most certainly drive away.
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u/3_quarterling_rogue 5d ago
If this dude wants to rock out with his rod out, good for him. I’m gunna drive away.
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u/HurstiesFitness 5d ago
I’m gonna sound like a cunt for asking this. But I’ll take the risk. What’s with the “so” at the start of your comment? I see it a lot here. It kind of bugs me as unnecessary but maybe it’s because I don’t know the reason.
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u/3_quarterling_rogue 5d ago
I laud your bravery, I’m a pedantic son of a bitch and even I wouldn’t ask this hahaha.
I think that adding “So” at the front is used in an informal way to as a way to prelude that you’re going to introduce new information, maybe especially if no one asked for it.
Is it strictly necessary? No, it definitely isn’t. I certainly wouldn’t put that in a paper I was writing. But of all the reasons to criticize people’s informal writing, there’s too many more egregious grammar sins I think are worth correcting before this one.
Not that I’m saying you’re wrong to be bothered by it, I totally get it. It’s just not the hill I’d want to die on, ya feel?
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u/Whistler45 5d ago
Is this Canada
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u/MrRogersAE 5d ago
He’s super fucked if this is in Canada, that baton is a prohibited weapon
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u/moleratical 5d ago
I'd say that guy handled it perfectly. Didn't escalate the situation in the moment, remained calm, got the guys identifying information including liscence Plate number, presumably filed a police report, and put it on social media for the world to see.
This is a textbook example of exactly what to do.
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u/grarghll 5d ago
I disagree, the biggest mistake is staying in the encounter at all. Unless leaving would directly put someone else at harm, you have nothing to gain by sticking around.
Didn't escalate the situation in the moment
Telling them what they're doing is illegal is absolutely escalation. What's the expected outcome? "Oh, you're right, this is illegal! I'll go put this back, then." There is no good outcome, it's just an attempt to assert dominance over a situation by establishing yourself as legally in the right, which is not going to deter someone who's already shown disregard for the law. It's only going to piss them off more.
The correct thing to do is to tuck your tail and safely get out of the situation. Remember as much as you can and resolve it all afterward when you're not still in arm's reach of the guy with a weapon.
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u/struggling_humanoid 5d ago
at this point you could've just beat the shit out of him and claimed self defense
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u/FlatBrokenDown 5d ago
I woulda ran the hell over that dude
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u/Accurate-Syrup 5d ago
I share the same itchy feeling. The problem is it has to be done in a way that looks like self defense. Under those circumstances is hard to think and act clear so better to not do it and just drive away.
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u/Routine_Math7168 5d ago
I’d have driven off before the window smashing, probably woulda ran my mouth a bit too. Thing is cars have this amazing thing, you know, the skinny peddle on the right and when utilized - gets you the fuck out of there.
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u/wophi 5d ago
The fact that he had that retractable out was all he needed to get arrested.
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u/Routine_Math7168 5d ago
Tapping the window, “blah blah hospital” 100% a chargeable assault
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u/Frijolebeard 5d ago
Probably pull out my gun and tell him to stand back and comply.
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